Tuesday, July 29, 2014
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My latest column is up.
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Clever well-written column and your heart’s in the right place…but, way too simple a postulation that animal-lover equals nice person and the opposite is evil person incarnate.
Consider Hilter: animal lover, vegetarian—equals mass-murder. I’m sure there are are many, many more examples.
Perhaps a better fool-proof analogy toward searching out serial killers et al. is to look for signs of their earlier abuse to what else?—humans. After all, there are many convicted serial killers that love their dogs and cats but will stab and dismember anything else on two feet.
Wow going right to the Hitler Argument.
Not every social devient has the same symptoms. Not everyone who skins a cat is going to skin people, and not everyone who skins people once skinned a cat. However, if the research backs it up, then yes, if you’re guilty of animal cruelty, it’s fair for the police to come to you first when there an unsolved case of human cruelty.
It won’t solve all crimes. It won’t prevent all murders.
But I’m pretty sure it will help. Justice even Hitler would approve of.
I may suggest that while I agree with you that there is no justification for any degree of wanton anmal cruelty (surely a veritable deviant behaviour) I must maintain that there is equally no justification to conflate the proposition that just because an individual has been convicted of cruelty for example to dogs and cats, they must ipso facto therefore be the prime suspect for cruelty to humans…and be interrogated as you say “first.”
Wouldn’t it be smarter to go after individuals (regardless if they love or play well with animals) those who have had priors involving violent confrontation with spouses, co-workers, family and more importantly (looking at the hallmark of psychopathology) a record of run-ins with strangers, trouble with authority, accelerating fixations on sexual or religious acting out.
I have no special insight into the mind or behaviour of a serial killer, but I’m sure if you looked at the professional literature the descriptions and antecedents while perhaps sometimes includung animal cruelty markers also have many other elements as well.
Don’t you watch “Criminal Minds” and “CSI” ? Seems TV serial killers have a lot more isues than not being animal lovers.
Yes, I suppose people with criminal history of violence against people are the first suspects. However, every person who has committed violence against other people, at one time, did not commit violence against people. I don’t see why we have to wait for them to actually hurt *two* people before we start to think they might be bad people. Zero seems like a good threshold for me.
If there are other clearly idenfiable (and illegal) indicators that someone is likely to hurt people, track them too. Why not have a catchall ‘possible sociopath’ database for the police?
charlotte: This isn’t my view, but what critics would say is we’re straying into Minority Report territory — that is, keeping a list of people who MIGHT commit crimes before they even do.
I love your idea for a “:possible sociopath” database. And, I hope they spell my name correctly.
Kidding aside, I for one would certainly also like to see a public database of sex-offenders; recent arrest records; recent conviction records. These types of database already exist and are provided as a pulic service by law enforcement in many juristictions in the US, particularly in Florida which is governed by ‘open govenment’ and so-called ‘government in the sunshine laws.’
I think this is something that needs to be advocated here. Isn’t important for the public in Canada to have the same opportunity to be protected? To likewise be aware of the posible danger of living next to a convicted child-molester, or for a single woman to be aware of the handyman who comes to service her stove doesn’t has a long list of theft and sex-assault convictions?
I agree with the Minority Report angle Dan.
I’m just suggesting keeping track of crimes people are found guilty of. Animal cruelty is an excellent example. Attacking people is another one.
Something more than just quizzing someone about an upside down tortoise in the desert.
Charlotte: Damn libertarians and their complaints!
Why not take another idea from ‘Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?’ and require all adults to care for an animal? Might that prevent serial murderers? Would that prevent human body parts from showing up at politicians offices and schools?
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