I’m not party political and I find local politics horribly boring but my goodness the Rob Ford victory is a slap in the face to the snobs, the elites, the entitlement gangs, the self-proclaimed ruling class, the alleged establishment who told us that Ford was unacceptable because he was fat/foolish/didn’t like Muslims/didn’t like Gays and so on and so on. George Smitherman is an ignorant bully and a manipulating fanatic who changes policies according to polls and has put personal ambition, arrogance and individual hatred before and beyond any belief in city or public service. The Star, the Globe and the usual old silly-billy types have been told just how little influence they have.
Will very much change? There are still a lot of left-wing time-servers on Toronto council and the unions and the media will try to cripple Ford from the start but the culture of “give me, I want” will certainly take a thrashing. Good times, as my kids say.
Toronto gets a conservative and Calgary elects a liberal. It’s official: up is down, left is right…
My guess is that the Pride gravy train for Tax funding will be axed not only for the QuAIA pro-Hamas stance in the parade, but the continued overt nudity bt males in front of children as the ex-mayor Miller allowed it for over 6 years in the guise of Divercity and Tolerance.
I’m not against the PRIDE parade, but if the nudity and child-abuse in public is now protected by the Charter and the OHRC’s Barbara Hall failure to stand up for children’s Rights, then at least the so called Moderate gays could demand it be moved to a Paid-venue for adults only.
I’m still shocked that when Mr.Coren questioned John Tory about the PRIDE nudity if he won the Election and Mr.Tory just stumbled over his non-answer to blame the Police IF any Nudity is present while children are there. Thank god furious George won’t get to drag his son to PRIDE and sit on a Float next to daddy who teaches him that it’s OK for males to expose themselves to children in public.
George reminds me of the days for Svend Robinson who would cry Homophobe at will and be verbally abusive to those challenging his version of reality with his famous Hissy-fits, Svend crusaded for Equal Justice in the Courts for all people no matter their social status….well…until he had to come befor a Judge for stealing a $60’000.00 item and THEN his status as a gay MP under stress from homophobes was now the excuse for his pathetic crime caught on film.
Rob Ford may be the fat,dopey,white,Str8,common man, But he’s OUR fat dopey white Str8 common man as the Mayor of a powerful City in canada and one of the larger ones in N.America and the Rainbow lefists better accept it and get used to the tax funded feeding trough closing down for at least the next 4 years.
The really sad part for furious George is that I must be the only one angry that all those AIDS victims could have been helped by the $1 Billion he pi$$ed away and the multi-Billion$$ deal for wind turbines for a Korean Company which the CAW dislikes because Korean cars come here while CAW cars don’t go to Korea.
Liberals love democracy when they get elected,but when they lose we see the Coup-scam in Ottawa by the Bloc/NDP/Lib’s to over throw the Elected party by the canadian voters just because we must have been too stupid to let vote so a Political Coup is justified to rescue us from ourselves. Funny how even the NDP almost had a pro-Shariah/anti-gay marriage MP elected in Ottawa but somehow Harper is a threat to democracy.
Your old pal Sarah Thompson had no problem with liberal anus. What’s embarrassing is that only around 50% voted. Look at Iran and other dictatorships where people vote and it gets tossed in the garbage, here we can all vote early or by proxy if need be and barely half turns out.
First, “Silly billy?” Is one of your kids reading while you post Coren?
Yes, consider my monocole popped asunder. Egads, Ford? This churlish scion of uncouth–um…millionaires. This will not do.
Hey, I get the glee–it’s the same thrill I get when I see major Republican candidate Christine O’Donnell open her mouth or another right-wing hypocrite melt in a puddle of hypocrisy and scandal. So, I can hardly deny anyone their moment. Have at it. Yes, this morbidly obese, patently unlikable fellow with no notable political accomplishments or political allies (save for those principled sorts spraining their knees leaping for the bandwagon tonight) has won the key to the city.
What a stunning victory.
I am amused that the establishment right is now collectively tub-thumping for a man they found just about as odious and intolerable as the chattering left not one year ago. Yes, now that he’s the thuggish standard-bearer for the populist right–the unions and the lefties will be blamed for his inevitable failure (and the media–you know, except the good ones) but ’twas always thus.
If he succeeds–it’s proof of his brilliance. If he fails–it’s a leftist conspiracy. Great sound bites. Swallow them down. Gone. Miller had his broom. Ford has his beloved train set. They are both fictions. Tonight was just a contest between which fiction you prefer. Tomorrow morning? Business as (mostly) usual.
Oddly, I still don’t disagree with much of what you’ve said–especially about Smitherman, who must be one of the least inspiring and more vacuous mayoral candidates in recent memory. Indeed, he must be sorely delusional to have run such a lazy “coronation” style campaign–and deserves his loss.
But a worthy Smitherman rebuke–does not an exceptional mayor make. Count on the euphoria from this eye-poke to the establishment to be short lived, as most fleeting bits of electoral nonsense so often are; especially once those furious voters realize that cutting the city hall snack budget isn’t going to save money for anyone.
Enjoy your night.
great column .Toronto gets smart Ottawa gets stoopid
A great day for our fair city!
There’s much to be happy about with this outcome, and a lot of post hoc analysis to look forward to from the Toronto Star explaining how they had good reason to be so incredibly wrong.
In the final analysis, it came down to a simple equation.
Ford’s supporters voted for someone they want to see as mayor.
Smitherman’s supporters voted against something. It’s hard to get enthusiastic about being negative, which is why Smitherman and The Star failed miserably this election.
Michael you forgot to mention Rob Ford is a Roman Catholic & last Sunday’s homily was about image.Do not worry about your image for there is no reward. Worry about the virtues Faith, Trust, & Patience to name a few & God will give you victory.I think Rob Ford won by 3 touchdowns! Go Rob Go!
That would have been something,though,if Smitherman had won. The sound of a bunch of moral (catholic) conservatives having their anus’ slam shut would have been resounding. Couple that with the muslims mayoral win in Calgary and I would have pictured coren laying on the floor in the fetal position sucking his thumb and moaning,”Gee golly, me oh my, willikers, the sky is falling.” Smitherman is a clown but it seems mayoral contests across our land ARE a clown show. Good luck Rob Ford; can you say “tax hike?” Can you say “status quo?”
The media dynamic will be interesting.
Rob Ford was attacked from day one, so he’s coming into this with the notion of him being under attack being familiar to the people of Toronto. He was under attack and people voted for him significantly.
Maybe he will relish being under attack by others and see it as something that’s appealing to taxpayers — fighting against the city for their benefit. Let’s hope so.
Any person who still thinks the print media has any influence left with the general populace is seriously delusional. That horse left the barn a long time ago. We live in a post literal society of 20 to 30 second sound bites via youtube or other media. Are there still people who serious follow print media? Sure, are they an ever shrinking populace, of course.
Although I don’t entrely blame them, the quality of any of the 4 papers in the Toronto market is so poor it makes it hard to be an adherent.
A note to Leigh Patrick Sullivan. Calgary elected a fiscal conserative and has a history of electing liberals, Dave Bronconnier, Liberal, Al Deurr, Liberal, even Ralph Klein mused about running for the federal Liberal party. In fact Calgary has elected mostly liberals to the mayor’s office in recent years. A fiscal conserative will be a welcome relief to the beleagured taxpayers!
And poor phil, still typing furiously in mommy’s basement, stuck in the smugness of your own bigotry! All you see when you look at Calgary’s new mayor is a muslim! Do your self a favour phil, read the man’s bio. You will find that Naheed Nenshi is more than the sum of your narrow minded pettiness!
Need I say more?
Hey Greg……I voted for the new mayor of Calgary.yatit
Yes, we can expect even more sneering condescension from Toronto media elites, led by the self-proclaimed anti-ideologue (read he stands for nothing) Jeffrey Simpson, who no doubt are licking their wounds after they failed to affect the outcome of the Toronto vote. They pay only lip service to free speech and democracy for others.
Nice to see there are still sane people left in Toronto.
Where’s Padre? Isn’t Rob Ford a Zionist invention?
Why do some / much of the media seem to think that they “represent” the voting public and that there is a need for them to “advocate” on their behalf.
I wonder what election campaigns would be like if there were to be a media blackout placed on all election coverage? Of course, there would be no ban on advertising so the candidates could get their message out and Elections Canada (or the equivalent) could advertise the date, times and locations of the polls.
On second thought, I’m full of it. Bans are never the way to go.
Too bad Chris Farley is not alive to star in a movie that promotes Ford in a heroized role verses baddies a’la “the People vrs. Larry Flint”
“Yes, this morbidly obese, patently unlikable fellow with no notable political accomplishments or political allies (save for those principled sorts spraining their knees leaping for the bandwagon tonight) has won the key to the city” There proves a chasm between your mentality and reality: majority of voters put him into office– if he was so unlikable, he would not have won. You would have to spin a libelious conspiracy that had him achieve success.
“Rob Ford may be the fat,dopey,white,Str8,common man, But he’s OUR fat dopey white Str8 common man as the Mayor of a powerful City in canada”. In contrast to the majority of Edmonton electors who declined to vote: to vote is not a privilage, a chance, not even a right. It is a secular, modern day obligation to ensure democracy and all its privilages. To not vote allows brutish regimes to reign. Everywhere. The Edmonton majority, who did not vote, do not deserve democracy via its own rejection of it.
And that is sad.
I wasn’t trying to mock Ford with the dopey fat white guy comment, I was responding to the leftist rants and even hateful posters near Dundas and Bloor by the TTC station.
I still hear people bring up Mike Harris or excusing terrorism on 9/11 by some muslims beause of Bush and yet 9/11 happened just after Bill Clinton left office.
So when does Miller get blamed when Ford must deal with the huge Debt and over-spending problem by the past mayor and Council.
Personally I’m shocked at the childish zealotry appearing on Facebook today. I’m seeing a plethora of photoshopped images of Rob Ford marching in the Gay Pride Parade, being run down by a street car or dancing in a showgirls line.
Frankly, the level of political discourse has fallen to an all time low. This is what happens when the entitled don’t get their entitlements.
Agreed Brian … the level of abuse Mr. Ford has taken is truly appalling. And this … from the so-called elites.
The comments made by LHZ and the like are ridiculous, petty, and childish. In what should be a voting decision based on skills, experience, track record, policy, and demonstrated personal virtues, politics in Canada are more often based on stupidity and ignorance and our political leadership in Canada more often than not reflects this. This attitude is demonstrated by both sides of the political spectrum but the left does appear to carry it to an extreme.
MC is correct in saying the leftist media will begin their campaign of denegrating Ford’s performance from day 1. You only have to look back at what was done to Harris as an example. Even today the left uses Harris as an example of mis-management by a conservative leader. Of course they fail in their criticisms to mention that Harris had to deal with a provincial economy that was almost broke at the time, following 4 years of disastrous NDP leadership and a year or so of Liberal leadership. The province at the time of his election was borrowing over a billion dollars a month but somehow the left turns that around and blames the necessary austerity measures Harris had to take on him and not on the spendthrifts that proceeded him. Harris did make unpopular changes but they were necessary and they got Ontario back on reasonble financial footing only to have the Liberals turn it back around again under McGuinty. The Star happily crucified Harris never once blaming the problems on the people and parties that actually caused them. They will do the same thing to Ford and he has an added disadvantage of having councillors dedictaed to working against him.
Remember the Walkerton disaster. The Star and the other left leaning media were very quick to blame it all on Harris’s cuts instead of where the blame rightly belonged which was on the incompetence of the people directly responsible for the problem. I know as I was a Walkerton resident at the time, the public works manager was lazy, incompetent, and did his best to try and hide what he’d done leaving the residents of Walkerton unknowingly drinking tainted water for 4 days. But no this was somehow Harris’s fault.
Harris was blamed by the left for bad relations with and trying to fight with the teachers, again by the leftist media. His legislation was squarely aimed at controling the trustees but the teachers, liking their cozy relationship with the trustees, made it appear he was taking them on and ruining Ontario education at the same time. Again the leftist’s and the left media were more than happy to distort the truth.
It will happen again, just wait and watch, and it will happen again provincially when the voters get rid of the incompetent and verbally dishonest provinvicial Liberal leadership of McGuinty.
John Tory was defeated due to a combined leftist attack on his funding proposal for religious schools, a policy that spoke of fairness and equality, something the leftists seem to think are their priority alone. But no the Ontario voters chose Mr. “no new taxes” McGuinty instead and look where that has gotten the province.
Stephen Smith is correct in his comment about 30 second sound bites as where most voters get their information and their opinions, instead of taking the time, making an effort, and using the brain god gave them to make an informed and intelligent vote.
Politicians of all stripes need to be held accountable for their actions. As voters we should send a strong message to them at each election that we will not accept lies, dishonesty and incompetence.
Our media should be our watch dogs instead of being partizan to the party of their particular choice. They have a social responsibility which most fail to uphold.
When we can collectively fixate on something as inconsequential to our future as Ford’s weight then sad to say we get exactly what we deserve.
Congradulations Rob! The best and quickest way to prosperity….Turn Right and Go Straight. (If Socialism were the answer, then Cuba would be the promised land)
I think Mike Harris was a thug.He caused chaos in the education system.He was a cold wind blowing down from North Bay;he should have just stayed there with all the moose & bear.Steve is blaming McGuinty for the economy; open your eyes & look down south to the States.The States are not importing our goods,that’s the problem.John Tory is a joke; he based his whole campaign of fairness? for religious education? sure Steve & we will give tax powers to every protestant sect out there to create their own bogus churches.It’s nice to see Rob Ford a Catholic in power with another Liberal Catholic McGuinty & now just waiting for that wasp Harper to head out the door! I would prefer an English Catholic for Prime Minister rather than a French Catholic Prime Minister.
@Steve thanks I thought I had gotten past the Harris years but you’ve reminded me of how much damage was done to Toronto by a Premier who set out to screw Toronto in order to buy votes in rural Ontario. Even Coren here used to blast him on his radio show.
I’m constantly amazed that you folks keep whining about the raw deal you get in the media. Oh My, oh dear, the press has dumped on our hero again. Look at the dysfunctional Toronto city government, who forced that setup? Where is the big gain from amalgamation? If Harris had kept to his program as outlined in the CSR I would have no complaint but instead he let the provincial bureaucrats screw the place. Reigning in the trustees was fine but imposing a new curriculum with no rhyme or reason other than some geek with a PHD in education said it would be better was counterproductive. Having read the ones applying to my three kids I can safely say it was unadulterated academic drivel and the massive increase in the high school dropout rate confirms it. He said he wouldn’t cut health care but then fired nurses and forced higher costs on to the system to compensate for the torch job he did earlier. You know Steve I never bring this up first but anytime someone brings up Harris , a guy many had high hopes for I just have to respond. He didn’t make government smaller! The spending went way up then he had to sell provincial assets to cook the books. It became indefensible, witness the infomercial budget so they wouldn’t have to face the house with the facts. Yeah many conservatives refuse to look at the facts around their hero and I think those in opposition made some sorry ass decisions too but we have to live with his gutting of Toronto’s transit system and the increased dropout rate which by any ideology would be considered major mistakes.
Why oh why are Conservatives so angry even when they win. The headline of is piece a case in point. Just be happy in the democratic process that allowed for this to happen instead of always looking for a roadkill comment. And if you say ‘well the left always does it,’ then that really makes the right no better. Change the discourse, change the direction.
Gary said: “I still hear people bring up Mike Harris or excusing terrorism on 9/11 by some muslims beause of Bush and yet 9/11 happened just after Bill Clinton left office.”
Bush took office on January 20th, 2001, that’s eight months prior to 9/11. Not only was he in power for the better part of a year, he was given a security brief titled “Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US” on August 6, 2001. Look it up if you don’t believe me.
So Clinton is blamed for 9/11, and Obama is blamed for the U.S. economy, but Bush was never blamed for not capturing Bin Laden during the eight years he was in power. No doubt if Clinton or Obama had been in power instead of Bush on 9/11, those damn “righties” would have nailed him to a cross for not getting Bin Laden. Hell, Clinton was almost impeached for having an affair by Republicans like Newt Gingrich who was also having an affair at the same time, so it goes.
Some of you are real ****ing idiots. Politics is a despicable business much of the time but that’s only because the public allows it, even facilitates it by being even more despicable like that idiot that’s going around cutting the brake lines of Liberal supporters. Admit it, some of you are smiling right now.
Congratulations to Rob Ford. It’ll be interesting to see if the big fat bloated lug of a man can reduce the size of big fat bloated city hall… we’ll see… we’ll see.
As loath as I am to get off-topic, I would like to say, in response to Jim, that the high school drop-out rate in Canada has been declining steadily since 1990. Ontario’s rate in 1992 was 14.7%; in 2005, it was 9.1%. Mike Harris was elected in 1995.
These figures are from Stats Canada.
Moe the statscan data refers to the number of 20-24 year olds in the workforce without a diploma which doesn’t take into account the thousands that left high school during the removal of grade 13 and the introduction of the new curriculum. There’s more to the rate than simple percentages. Snobelen himself complained about having to hire a tutor for his own kid. I wonder what his solution was for those who couldn’t afford to hire tutors.
Bush was sworn in in jan 2001,there was a short period in office with real power and then ALL politicians took the summer off.
But I did notice that Michael Moore thought that Bush was stupid because he didn’t round-up all the Arabs and Muslims after 9/11/01 until they proved they were not connected to the terrorism.
Just check out his 9-1-1 movie,he was upset that non-Citizens would dare to leave the USA legally on a chartered Plane heading over the Atlantic while knowing it could be shot down if it deviates from the flight path.
Gary, My recollection was that Moore was specifically referring to members of the Bin Laden family not Muslims in general.
Gary said: “Bush was sworn in in jan 2001,there was a short period in office with real power and then ALL politicians took the summer off.”
Are you really that stupid? Do you actually believe the POTUS takes the summer off?
Ford was not elected because of his stunning civic track record. He is simply a sweaty avatar for a certain brand of histrionic electoral rage—much of which is incomprehensible, ludicrously oversimplified or at the very least, sorely misplaced. The Harris allusions are especially important–creating this sort of divisiveness was part of the purpose behind amalgamation. Downtown elites vs. Suburban simpletons. This is all just so silly. Forgetting (if you can) that Ford is a wealthy white guy himself. What does football coaching have to do with running a complex, enormous city?
Our political culture is histrionic and viciously tribal often at the expense of common sense—and in the case of Ford, demonstrable fact. I’ve followed Toronto politics for years—and I cannot recall anyone, from any end of the political spectrum, characterizing Mr. Ford as anything other than a isolated, unimaginative blowhard—with almost hilariously voluminous evidence of such available to anyone with an internet connection.
As I say—this isn’t just my opinion. During the campaign, most of the establishment right were hardly in rabid support of Ford in any tangible sense they seemed to just like watching the lefties squirm on the hook. Those latte drinking-Atwood-reading elites! Talk about childish! Talk about rubbish.
MC has it right. It’s all about kicking someone’s butt—not actually governing sensibly. So the voters (or a lot of them anyways) got their rebuke. Their chastening of Miller and the Ontario Liberals was fulfilled. At what cost? Will it be worth it?
Scrappy electoral politics are far different than the mundane realities of civic governance—which requires consensus building, compromise, teamwork and showing up to boring, boring meetings regularly. Several areas in which Mr. Ford has proven sorely deficient. Most crucially, like Coren—most people don’t care about civic politics—and by this time next year, no one’s going to be much interested in Ford as they are now—unless he makes a few major gaffes. Reporting on them will, of course, be part of a grand liberal conspiracy. Count on it. It won’t possibly be that he’s supremely unqualified for the job.
And this alleged media campaign against Mr. Ford? Colour me thoroughly bored with this utterly tired and impossible line of argument—whether it’s a lefty or a righty calling foul. It’s a way of deflecting real engagement with the world. And it’s tired.
If Joey Pants had the identical civic track record, criminal record and You Tube channel that Mr. Ford has—would everyone here would be calling for judicious restraint in the face of an unfair media campaign? Or would it all be fair game? Please. I mean, a certain TO daily treated Adam Giambrone, like he was a war criminal once his judgmental lapses became public. Another spilled tons of ink attempting to paint a dubious , directionless and compromised deputy premier as the saviour of Toronto and Rob Ford as…um…Lucifer, as I recall. Vengeance. Anger. Petulance. Fear. Sells papers. Sells votes. Does little for good governance.
Yes–’m just one voter and not immune, but childish emotions positively ruled the day earlier this week. And it’s not a right-left thing. Not a downtown-uptown thing.. Not a 647 v. 416 thing. It’s everyone’s problem. Mercy, I would have voted for Tory, Rossi or Thomson before Smitherman or Pants or Ford.
Folks. you can be a hard-nosed, pragmatic right-winger and STILL think Rob Ford is a ludicrous, monosyllabic idiot. You can lean left and understand that Joe Pants is washed up, dishwater-dull and idea-free. Trust me. I’ve talked to many of them. If you just like watching the blood fly—why not get a UFC ticket? That way, only the participants get hurt.
Ford is a terrible choice for mayor. Four years from now—he will be gone and a nefarious, bike-riding lefty will sit in his place. Count on it. Clip and collect.
LHZ
@LHZ – Quite a diatribe. Don’t hold back tell us what you really think of Ford. What if a year from now the city is on the road to recovery, who do we credit?
At least some of you do not fail to disappoint, and I quote;
simply a sweaty avatar
isolated, unimaginative blowhard
he’s supremely unqualified for the job
a ludicrous, monosyllabic idiot
the big fat bloated lug of a man
Enough said you prove my main point.
John, I didn’t mention Ontario’s economy and I find it telling that you did. My main problem with McGuinty is I don’t like being lied to. If you are forced to change a policy then admit that is what you are doing, don’t try and fudge by claiming a premium is not a tax, or that all you’ve done is harmonize taxes. (For those of you not compehending the last point, harmonization of the two tax systems in no way required the extending of the provicial portion of the sales tax to the same items previously taxable only under the GST. McGuinty has hidden a sizable tax increase by calling it harmonization.)
Also John, as a Catholic getting a slice of the education funds directed into a separate Catholic school system, is it not a little hypocritical to deny other faiths the same funding? Or are they simply godless sects undeserving of public funds? From my point of view no separate system should be funded from public taxes but if one is then all must be, that’s called equity.
I’m wandering again, but there was a very easy way to settle the education/religious funding problem. Attach the cost of education to each child and let the child go to whatever school his parents please. If it costs, $5,000 (pulled out of thin air) a year to educate a child, the money follows the child to a Catholic, Muslim, Baptist, Dutch Reform, Wicca, or clown school and that school gets the $5,000. If nobody wants to send their kid to Wicca school, the school goes out of business, or goes private. If everybody wants their kid to go to the best school, it gets all the cash, and when it’s full, the parents pick the next best school.
It costs the taxpayers the same amount of money and schools sink or swim based on how many students they attract (read: how good they are). Government standards apply to all. Voila.
Steve, you forgot to add “ignorant bully and a manipulating fanatic” to your list of insults. No harm, I’ll just assume that you didn’t bother to read Coren’s comment and went directly to LHZ’s comment like a lot of other people.
It’s true, Ford is in for a tough battle and the insults will be endless, which inevitably will put all you righties into maniacal tailspins and more reason to hate the lefties. Hey, it could be worse, at least you don’t have to worry about the brake lines on your car being cut because you have a Liberal sign on your lawn.
LHZ said: “Our political culture is histrionic and viciously tribal often at the expense of common sense…”
Absolutely right, like watching a sporting event with a group of fans that say nothing when a player on their team gets away with a foul, but when a player on the other team does it, they scream bloody murder at the referee.
@ Jim says:
October 28, 2010 at 7:29 pm
Gary, My recollection was that Moore was specifically referring to members of the Bin Laden family not Muslims in general.
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Re-watch the movie,Moore fails to tell you that about 80 people were on the same Flight and it was very Legal to let non-Citizens or Tourists leave the USA. Maybe I saw a different version of his movie because Moore also bashed the Saudi Arabs as blood thirsty killers in bed with the USA for the Oil money.
Moore would never get away with a movie that bashed Muslim in general or the gays in Hollywood,but because Bush was tied to 9/11 it was just fine to infer he caused it and was buddies to enable the 19 hijackers.
What liberals are failing to see is what happens after the books get balanced and light is shown into every nook and cranny:
then, and only then, can the public truly see how their tax money is being spent.
I think this is the reason right-wing cost-cutting angers so many on the left – because it shines a light on their schemes and waste.
@Moe I assume you’re talking about a voucher system. The issue that sunk Tory (and I’m sorry it did) was I thought the public weariness with two competing school systems. Many conservatives, Janet Ecker for one have agreed that one system would be better but also recognize the difficulty in getting past the constitutional provision for Catholic schools. During that election I recall that many taxpayers were concerned that they would be funding radical religious schools of various denominations that would preach religious hatred.
@ Gary, Moores’s point was that the people on the plane should have been questioned about what they knew about Bin Laden and his operation but that their close connections to the Bush family enable them to escape FBI questioning. It does seem ludicrous that relatives of the 9/11 perpetrators shouldn’t at least have to answer a few questions about what they know of Bin Laden and his operation.
Lovekraft: “What liberals are failing to see…”
What you’re failing to see is that the vast majority of Canadians are fiscally conservative and socially liberal—so what does that make them, liberal or conservative? Well, it makes them both. Despite the polarized opinions on here, the majority of Canadians don’t give a **** about left-wing or right-wing politics, they simply want their government to spend tax-payers’ money with prudence.
People can disagree on how taxes should be spent, but nobody likes government waste and mismanagement.
Only a leftie loon would make such a statement: “Ford was not elected because of his stunning civic track record. He is simply a sweaty avatar for a certain brand of histrionic electoral rage—much of which is incomprehensible, ludicrously oversimplified or at the very least, sorely misplaced.”
I’m a Liberal and agree 100% with Rob Ford and I did not vote for Smitherman simply because Toronto is already too “rainbow” for the average baby-boomer LIBERAL.
Steve says;Ontario voters chose Mr. “no new taxes” McGuinty instead and look where that has gotten the province.
Steve I assume taxes refers to the economy?
You mentioned you were not talking about the economy?
McGuinty is a politician, politicians cannot speak the truth because we could not handle the truth. You see Steve we in the west have demonized taxes for over 25 years! you need taxes to look after many services.You could live in India or Pakistan & not pay taxes & see what kind of services you get?
In the US only 2% of the population make $40 trillion dollars! these are the scum bags who do not want to pay any taxes if they could get away with it.
The devil will use their own money to stoke the furnace.
As far as education equality goes?
As a Catholic getting a slice of the education funds directed into a separate Catholic school system, is it not a little hypocritical to deny other faiths the same funding? Or are they simply godless sects undeserving of public funds? From my point of view no separate system should be funded from public taxes but if one is then all must be, that’s called equity.
The French Catholics fought with their blood in Quebec to preserve their Catholic faith & made a historic deal with the Protestants which still stands to this day.
John,
Dont you think it’s about time that the Catholics were forcibly integrated into the PUBLIC School system? By doing so we would actually be helping them.
Hey Jimbo, God’s people are to be separate my friend.We are sheep amongst wolves. That’s why we have Separate School Boards a divine mission.There is an old prayer: “Why should the pagans say where is our God?” It’s simply amazing what God has done for us as Roman Catholics.Yes the devil will try & destroy what we have however it’s nothing new.Believe it or not; it does not come down to French Catholics fighting to preserve the true Faith in Canada(Ontario) it actually comes from around 325 AD when Constantine made Roman Catholicism the official religion of the empire(state), this still stands today.This is why Protestants do not have an official state religion.Even in the Protestant USA there is no official religion within Christianity because of all the different sects.The only state that tried to create an official state religion was England when the bonehead King Henry Vlll who was a Catholic King let his libido rule his head(no pun intended).He was an imposter who tried to pull a Constantine without God.Cannot be done.
When he created the Anglican Church he did it without divine intervention but his own will.In Canada that’s why you go to a Public school & we go to a Catholic school.”If God is for us who can be against us?”
John, you definitely have a different outlook on things.
Steve, just today 5 more Bishops from the Anglican Church have converted to the Roman Catholic Church.Remember the True Faith will always be the city on the hill a beacon light.The Anglican Church is a lost tribe/sheep that will return to it’s master.The Lord says; the sheep will hear my voice.