Nothing adds up about the Norway slaughter. This man is described as a Christian fundamentalist and a freemason. What? That’s like saying he’s black and a Klansman. Freemasonry is despised within Christian fundamentalism. Then there is a rumour that he is said to be of the far right and a Zionist! Again, massive contradiction, and simply not possible. I will say this again to those who are too frightened and foolish to have listened the first time. Islamic groups have promised and still promise terror to Norway; Islamic groups have launched terror attacks all over Europe, including Stockholm, and attacked individuals in Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Iceland. Islamic groups initially claimed responsibility for this horror; and Islamic groups have launched several attacks in the last 24 hours in Africa, Asia, and the Middle East. Since 9/11 there have been 16,000 terror attacks by jihadists. The shock will not be if it is Islamic terror, but if it isn’t.
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Michael, are you saying that this fellows twitter account which lists him as a christian conservative is a ruse or diversion? Or are you saying that the media is too weak-kneed to identifying as radical muslim?
I do not believe he is a Christian. That would be shocking indeed.
Vuyo,
I don’t think it’s a diversion, but all of the evidence now points to him being insane. His posed photograph has him dressed as a freemason. As you may know – but we live in an ignorant world I’m afraid, so most journalists seem unaware of this – fundamentalist Christianity is effectively at war with freemasonry. He also quote Mills, an anti-Christian. Then we are told he hated Muslims; so why attack non-Muslims, when there are so many Islamic targets? Doesn’t make any sense. He is not a Christian, because Christianity is opposed to senseless violence. Can this be said of Islam? Not according to millions of Muslims and countless Islamic leaders, who give their blessing to slaughter on a daily basis.
Unfortunarely Michael, the secularists and atheists will be all over this incident and use it to bash genuine Christians and justify their bigoted and hateful attitudes toward Chistians. And no doubt, celebrity atheists like Hitchens and Dawkins will waste no time using this incident as part of their campaign to force religion underground. Liberal apologists are already coming out with thier “see it’s not just Muslims who kill” rhetoric.
It’s already started Samsom. But it goes further. I’m getting tweets from idiots who say Muslims do not kill, and Islam is not the problem. The same people who don’t even know, and wouldn’t care, about the daily abuse and killing of Christians, moderate Muslims, women, and so on all over the Islamic world, and in the Muslim diaspora in Europe.
The man was insane. Anyone trying to now link this lunatic’s violence to any religion or political agenda is wasting their brain cells and mine. It would be refreshing if commentators, right or left, refrained from jumping in with conclusions before even the police have dusted for fingerprints. The last few posts here have revealed an alarming tendency for confirmation bias.
Often confessing, “I don’t know” is a sign of wisdom.
Sounds like you all know what a Christian really is and if someone says they are, but they do things you disagree with then its “Well so and so isn’t a real Christian.” How far are you willing to sink? Arguably, the most fundamentalist and violent of the religious are, in fact, the most religious and since they are willing to die/kill for their cause, they would be more sincere believers than you, no?
“Arguably, the most fundamentalist and violent of the religious are, in fact, the most religious and since they are willing to die/kill for their cause, they would be more sincere believers than you, no?”
This is such nonsense that I hardly know where to begin with it. First of all, there is a great difference between being willing to die for a cause and willing to kill for it. They may coincide and coexist in some individuals, but Christianity is not especially known for this trait. Jesus did not, after all, attempt to kill or even to fight the Roman soldiers who came to arrest him.
Second, what is it with moderns (and post-moderns) who keep attempting to blame human institutions for human wickedness, for all the world as if they still believed in blank slates and noble savages? Subquestion 2.2: Do you seriously have such faith – I use that word advisedly – in human perfectibility that you think erasing the institutions will somehow bring out the best in us? Subquestion 2.3: How on earth are we to create a perfect society with our imperfect understanding and imperfect behaviour?
Third, are you telling us that you think it’s only religion that drives human beings to behave badly? What about families, a frequent source of murderous violence? What about soccer hooliganism? The Baader-Meinhof gang? Communism? The fact is that we are born in original sin and inclined to corruption, and it mars everything we touch.
A simple question– if he is a Christian Fundamentalist, where did he go to church? Where was he baptized? These are two “fundamentals” of being a fundamentalist Christian. He is said to have posted on Nazi forums. Nazis were atheists. They were anti- Christian. Dietrich Bonhoeffer wasn’t executed because he was an atheist. (for those who don’t know Bonhoeffer was a Christian Theologian). Nazis also were not conservatives as we understand conservatism today– meaning people who support individual rights and the free market. Nazi was short for National Socialist party. They were socialists. They were FOR gun control for example. And they were also for universal healthcare. Calling them right wing has been a longtime slander of the right by the leftists who re-write history. (Jonah Goldberg discusses the history at length in “Liberal Fascism”) So there is a lot that doesn’t add up here. Bill Clinton used the Oklahoma City bombing to get re-elected. There is no doubt that the Democratic party, and the left, intend to use this incident in the same way, we must continue to call them out on this slander.
Here’s something else that doesn’t add up. They talk about him growing some organic crops and that these farming activities gave him access to fertilizer with which to make the bombs. The only thing is that “organic” crops aren’t grown with synthetic fertilizers, its not natural enough for them.
Some interesting commentary from Mark Humphreys with links to the killers online comments etc as evidence …
The killer was right-wing and anti-jihad, yes, but he was not a neo-Nazi (he was pro-Israel) or a white supremacist (he opposed the BNP because they are racist). He was Christian, but not a fanatic (he was pro-gay).
http://markhumphrys.com/norway.attacks.html
Strange bird.
jess,
If it’s not for us to say who is a real Christian. As long as that person says he’s Christian, we must take him at his word. Then how come it’s OK to tell us that terrorists aren’t really Muslims. Or do you disagree with that too?
This guy was a Christian Terrorist and should be treated as such, so stop making excuses. Remember Timothy McVeigh
he too was a Christian……
Al,
It’s funny that the labels come flying out when it’s a white “Christian”. Clearly he was driven by his desire to please Jesus. Yeah, maybe you’re right and that’s why the massacre happened.
But how come when it’s an arab guy with “soldier of Allah” business cards screaming Allahu Akbar while he’s shooting people… Well his motives are a complete mystery and we can only try to guess what they are. So, we are told, we shouldn’t speculate about his motives (except to suggest that maybe it is some form of “non-combat-post-traumatic-stress-disorder”).
I guess to you they’re the same? If you say so Bub, but read the headline.
Al says:
This guy was a Christian Terrorist and should be treated as such, so stop making excuses. Remember Timothy McVeigh
he too was a Christian……
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If this person believes that he is a fool. Otherwise he is being sarcastic, but he doesn’t know know to be sarcastic.
McVeigh was certainly an athiest. And the Nordic murderer was by his own admission not a Christian in the normal sense of the word. If you want to be clever or sarcastic, at least do try to be good at it. Otherwise you just look ignarant.
ignorant. sorry I mistyped.