Posts Tagged ‘Harrison Barnes

Vegas Summer League all-stars

- July 22nd, 2012

Caught six days of NBA summer league action in Las Vegas last week. Here are the top players I watched and some disappointments:

TOP DOGS

Damian Lillard – Shot poorly through 2.5 quarters of his debut, then went absolutely off, dominating the competition. Averaging 26.5 points per game, living up to his billing as an excellent scoring guard.

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist – Shut down almost immediately, but wowed the crowd in his lone appearance, doing a little bit of everything and leading his Bobcats.

Josh Selby – Nobody ever questioned his talent. Wasn’t a good fit at Kansas and didn’t play much in the NBA last season, but tore it up in Vegas, leading the summer league in scoring at 27.5 per game. Athletic scorer.

Kawhi Leonard – No surprise, starter on league’s best team, dominated against weaker competition.

Klay Thompson – Unstoppable scoring force was shut down early once the Warriors saw enough.

Donatus Motiejunas – Rockets pick played hard, the number one issue most had with him, and showed off an offensive game as advanced as any big man in Vegas.

Jeremy Lamb – Another of Houston’s exciting young crop. Averaged 20 points per game and was difficult to stop.

Brad Beal – Didn’t dominate, but showed, as expected, he had the skills to be a good scorer and rebounder.

Eric Bledsoe – Does a little bit of everything, but is not a point guard. Averaged almost as many turnovers and assists. Athletic, scoring guard who can rebound.

Cory Joseph – Pickering NBAer was great. Showed an improved handle, set up his teammates well and was hitting his jump shots. Averaged 17 points, 4.4 rebounds, 5.2 assists per game plus 1.8 steals.

John Henson – We’re big fans of Henson and he was a defensive force in Vegas while also chipping in offensively.

Tobias Harris – Another young Milwaukee talent. Harris can pile up the points.

Ed Davis – Everything looked improved, especially his jump shot.

Terrence Ross – While his jumper wasn’t falling, some of that was a result of fatigue. Showed top tier athleticism, smart positional play on defence and smooth form on his jump shot.

Markieff Morris – Good defence, great rebounding and solid inside-out scoring from the poor man’s Rasheed Wallace.

Bernard James -The 27-year-old rookie was solid. Shot over 60% and nearly averaged a double-double.

Malcolm Thomas -Don’t know much about him, but he owned the boards, pulling down almost 15 per game.

Wes Johnson – Long-time readers know we’re not sold on the former Syracuse star, but, credit where it is do, he was on fire from deep, shooting nearly 50%.

DISAPPOINTMENTS

Dion Waiters – 12.3 points per game, 30% shooting. Showed a good first step and that’s about it. One of the biggest risks in the draft wasn’t in great shape and looked far from a top 5 pick.

Kemba Walker – Yes, he led his team to wins, which is huge, but he still shot 35%. That needs to improve.

Kendall Marshall – Shooting was dismal and his turnovers were too high.

Thomas Robinson – He’s going to be good, but could not make any shots and turned the ball over like crazy.

Jared Sullinger – The double-double was good, the 25.6% shooting, not so much.

 

 

 

 

NBA draft chat

- June 28th, 2012

Talking Raptors and NBA Draft and will be updated all day. Here we go:

@ParmB: Does the Waiters hype have smoke-screen written in glowing-neon capitals or what?

That’s what I was told last night and it is what I believe – but Woj is the league’s most plugged-in reporter, so if he says it can happen, I can’t totally discount it.

@MikeBartoch: Would you deal #8 for Lowry and 12?

Yes but Houston would not. Plus with the team believing it strongly is in the running for Steve Nash, there is a reluctance to make a move for Lowry at this point.

@jdrab: If Waiters go #4, Lillard #6, is Austin Rivers the pick at #8?

Not if Harrison Barnes is on the board or if a team comes calling for Drummond. Rivers remains in the mix, but he’d be a consolation prize.

@A2K81: Any surprise draft predictions a la Tristan Thompson from last year’s draft?

Another Canadian, Andrew Nicholson will go higher than people think. Jared Sullinger won’t free-fall too far, Royce White could crack end of lottery or just beyond.

@GraffAttack: Chances the raps trade down a bit to land Kendall Marshall if Lillard and Waiters are gone?

If Lillard, Waiters, Barnes gone, hearing trade down very much an option. Don’t think Marshall interests them though.

@GetBigPicture: Other than the Rockets, are the Raps getting any interest from teams looking to trade up to 8?

Yes, have been told a lot of offers have come in, some good ones that Raptors are pondering.

@JealousTweeter: If Drummond is available do the Raptors take him if he’s the most valuable aset and try and trade him?

Been told it is possible, but more likely they just pick somebody they like.

@lorefice1: Any solid chance Barnes slips to Raptors?

Wouldn’t say solid chance, but there is a scenario where it happens. Assuming Anthony Davis, Thomas Robinson, Bradley Beal go 1-3 and MKG, Waiters, Lillard, Drummond are next four picks, Barnes would be there. Golden State and Sacramento probably the keys in terms of Barnes.

@AnandPersaud04: Any chance Raptors move up in the draft at all?

Still unlikely, but strange things happen once the picks start getting called.

@DJXS: Coverage is at 7 pm but do you know what time the actual draft starts?

Should be around 7:35.

@Doug_Bethune: What does your gut tell you the Raps do at 8?

Draft Barnes, Waiters or Lillard if they are there and in that order if somehow all three magically are on the board. If all gone they probably roll dice on Rivers.

@1K_Lutch: If Drummond slips to 8 will BC be able to overcome temptation of a JV and Drummond frontcourt? If so, Bargs on the block?

The Raptors will not try to develop two extremely young 7-footers at the same time. The focus is on Valanciunas, they want someone who can get in the rotation now and put points on the board, not a project. And no, Bargnani not on the block.

@MitchThompson93: Would the Warriors take DeMar for the 7th pick?  Would the Raps do that? Am I crazy?

I think it would take more than DeMar to get 7 and Demar and 8 is far too much to move up a spot. If Warriors think DeRozan can play the three, he’d be a nice fit since he gets to the line and they already have shooters. Couldn’t see Raptors keeping 7 and 8 in that scenario. Hopefully you’re not crazy.

@hammyahol: Just curious. What does a team do in the war room if they trade a pick?

Good question. Celebrate if it’s a heist. Look forlorn as players they like go off the board? They might try to trade back in and also might have other picks to worry about like second rounders so it wouldn’t clear out or anything like that. Lots of trade discussion going on all evening.

@Daoud_S: The worst case scenario has to be no Lillard and Waiters on the board & Drummond there? Why not draft him to keep him?

See the other Drummond answer.

@Newpunkroy: Barnes Waiters and Lillard gone. What do you think Colangelo would do if no trade on the table? Rivers? Lamb? No way Drummond?

Both guys possible. Drummond only if they can get something and move back a bit.

@andrew2doucette: I just want to know if Barnes falling to 8 is as real as they are making it sound. Thought?

Who is they? It’s far more likely not to happen than to happen. Someone would have to take Waiters and Lillard and Sacramento or who they trade with would have to not take Barnes. So possible, but wouldn’t bet heavily on it.

Updated 3:30 p.m. Thursday

 

Knicks at Raptors Points Per Game + why Harrison Barnes shouldn’t be a Raptor

- March 23rd, 2012

Quick thoughts as Raptors show some fight against a Knicks team that punked them earlier in the week.

- Efficient, solid night from DeMar DeRozan. He was doing whatever he wanted before suffering a minor injury. They need more of this out of him. Smarter shot selection.

- Andrea Bargnani had his best game since returning from injury. The threes still aren’t falling and he is getting stripped too often, but his timing appears to be coming back.

- Liked the fight in the team, pushing back, dishing out some hard fouls.

- Balanced effort on the boards was huge against an excellent rebounding team. Gary Forbes stepped up with his best game of the season and he had to with Jerryd Bayless injured and Leandro Barbosa no longer with the team.

- Raptors have some time to add another player to replace Rasual Butler, but it could happen soon. Expect a PG to be the guy.

And some thoughts on Harrison Barnes. The timing looks odd, because Barnes was horrendous on Friday, but loyal readers know I’ve been shaky on the guy for over a year now. There’s always been something or some things about Barnes that scare me. I think he’ll be a better pro than college player, but I think the Raptors should pass on him.

Here are a few reasons why:

(1) Something is missing. It’s hard to quantify, is it will, desire, heart, toughness, competitive fire, basketball IQ, some combination of a bunch of those? Not sure, but he definitely has something missing in the mental or motor departments.

(2) Horrible fit alongside DeMar DeRozan. Sure he’s a good outside shooter which DeRozan is not, but neither can create shots for themselves consistently and are poor dribblers and no NBA team is going to be successful without starting swingmen who can do more than just spot up or finish alley-oops.

(3) Too similar to Bargnani. You are asking for trouble if you build around two cornerstones this passive. The Raptors need an injection of passion and killer instinct. Barnes doesn’t provide that.

The Raptors need game changers. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist has that kind of an attitude and can turn games defensively. Anthony Davis is the same way.

Bradley Beal has the offensive game to dominate and the basketball IQ to hurt and exploit opponents by whatever methods are necessary.

Unless Bargnani and/or DeRozan are traded, I don’t like Barnes as a fit on the Raptors.