Bring back the death penalty in Canada: Mammoliti

- June 4th, 2012

Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti is calling for a return of the death penalty in Canada.

While the issue is a federal matter, rather than a municipal one, Mammoliti wants Canadians to start talking about reinstating capital punishment in the wake of the Eaton Centre shooting in Toronto and the bizarre “body parts” murder in Montreal allegedly committed by Luka Magnotta.

“We’ve had enough horrific stuff over the last week to last a lifetime in our minds,” Mammoliti told the Sun Monday.

Mammoliti admitted he’s just a city councillor but he’s hoping to spark the discussion in Canada.

“I think it is time for us to talk about how we deal with individuals who just don’t have any morals at all and just don’t care about the majority of society,” he said.

The Ward 7, York West councillor said he won’t ask city council to endorse a call for the feds to debate a return to capital punishment because he expects it would fail on the council floor.

Mammoliti wants the death penalty to apply to murderers, cop killers and pedophiles. He argues those committing many of these crimes don’t fear being sentenced to life in prison but would fear a death sentence.

“As a city, a province and nation, capital punishment should be something we are talking about,” Mammoliti said.

No stranger to igniting controversy, Mammoliti expects his capital punishment call will raise the ire of many.

“I expect every bleeding heart in Canada to be writing to me and telling me how awful I am for suggesting it,” he said.

But Mammoliti says he won’t back down.

“Maybe we get smart as a society and start dealing with this instead of being the bleeding hearts that we’ve been all these years and helped create these monsters by being the bleeding hearts that we are,” he said.

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61 comments

  1. daver says:

    yeah, mammolitti, the death penalty sure keeps these things from happening in the US

    stick to flagpoles and rub n tugs, you clown

  2. Dave says:

    Ignore him, and this idea, like all of his stupid ideas, will soon be forgotten.

  3. KPD says:

    Uh, this stuff is way outside buddy’s purview and job description. Why does this guy always think people give some kind of weight to his fake tough-guy opinions? Blowhard alert …

  4. Hoja says:

    Canada’s big problem: insufficient killing, says Gio Mammo

  5. Yo Ma Ma says:

    ilduchebaggoliti wants to be on death row real bad it seems

  6. tina says:

    um, for who? It’s always a wise move to call the people who would be opposed to your position bleeding hearts. The man has no idea how to run a city let alone take on the country. He’s a fool and I’m only saying that not because I disagree 100 percent with what he says, but because he says what he says the way a fool would say it. And he does what he does the way a fool would. Mammo the Clown. Please find another person to fill his seat come election time!

  7. Tristan says:

    Maybe we should bring back Capital Punishment, it would save alot on tax payers, bring a decrease in prison population and its a suitable punishment for the crime of killing another human. “an eye for an eye”

  8. Missed Connection says:

    “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.”
    — Mohandas K. Gandhi

    A murderer is someone who takes an innocent life. When, inevitably, the first innocent life is taken by capital punishment, we become the murderers.
    Canada doesn’t have capital punishment because of what happened in Britain. Timothy Evans was put to death for the murder of his wife and daughter. He was sent by the testimony of John Christie, the real murder. Britain stopped executions shortly afterwards, and so did Canada (last execution was 1962.)
    For a more recent example: Carlos DeLuna in the U.S.
    Pro-death-penalty people like to make a false dichotomy where everyone against it is a “bleeding heart” who would let criminals run free. This is a ridiculous argument. I think life sentences and hard time should be what their name says, and the justice system is too lenient in many cases. But leave the barbarism of capital punishment in the dark ages.

  9. K. Young says:

    Reduce crime and unemployment…hire a hangman.

  10. timothy says:

    not sure if this guy even has a Jurist Doctoral Degree. he looks like one of those….” I THINK ” guys.
    if he really wanted discussion, he would have approached the ethics board.
    PUBLICITY STUNT

  11. Walter says says:

    As a country, what has taken so long to bring the death penalty back; these types of crimes will continue until there is death as punishment!
    Come on politicians, what are we paying you for?

  12. Brenda says:

    I strongly believe we need the death penalty back in Canada! If you never had a child murder or someone else in your family then maybe think before you speak. What does it say when you comment a murder get 25 years then you can get out early!! Or what about the guy who cut off someone’s head and now get to go out on a pass. Do you not see something wrong in this country? I mean come on!! When you kill someone then you should give up your life as well. I think of my child every day and the man who took her life why should he get to live?

  13. JG says:

    I love the idea!!! It’s too harsh until you’re loved ones are the ones cut up and shipped across the province!! I say sell lottery tickets and the winner gets to be the one to start the gas chamber, I’m sick of my taxpayer dollars going to keep these monsters in jail!!! It’s about time we got something and stopped giving them more!! If you gave me the option I’d pull the trigger and have whoever wants to watch watch, Luka, Bernardo, Rafferty and McClintic!!! Great Idea and I will be writing to my MP to bring it up!!! See what you think after its your loved ones
    Daver and remember you thought it was a bad idea!!!

  14. W. K. Lis says:

    Hey Giorgio! Why don’t you leave City Hall and go try to win a federal riding so you can go after your proposal? After all, the US has the death penalty and their murder rate is so much lower than Canada’s…not.

  15. S. Shay says:

    I am totally in favour of the death penalty…bring on a huge oetition or vote and I would bet that most Canadians would agree.

  16. The Eaton centre shooter turned himself in. If the shooter was facing the death penalty he wouldn’t have turned himself in and we would still have a suspect at large.

    As for Magnotta, no E.U. member will extradite to death penalty jurisdictions, so he would remain in limbo facing years of extradition proceedings, only to be resolved once Germany was given assurances no death penalty would be sought in the case.

    Toronto is also an annual sponsor of the international “Cities for Life” campaign to abolish capital punishment worldwide that takes place at St. James Cathedral every year on November 30, with cities all around the globe to oppose the death penalty.

    (This year marks the 50th anniversary of the last execution in Canada, which took place in Toronto in 1962.)

    Mammoliti should stop interjecting illogical proposals that would have done nothing but actually prevent police from being able to do their job in both these cases, where the suspect actually turned himself in, and the other was able to waive their rights to extradition proceedings because there was no capital punishment in Canada.

    If we had the death penalty, it would only have obstructed the course of justice in both cases he mentions.

    If Mammoliti was trying to fan the flames of public outrage over these recent high profile incidents, he failed to consider what the the implications would actually mean for the very cases he is trying to use as examples.

  17. S.Fischer says:

    There used to be an opportunity to have a wrongful conviction. DNA evidence has changed that. Stop wasting taxpayers money and put down the child killers, violent sexual predators and serial killers. I don’t want to pay for rehabilitation, just a needle. If you don’t agree, go home look at your child and picture someone doing the unimaginable to them like Tori Stafford, Leslie Mahaffey, Jane Kriva or Kristen French. It may not be a deterrent because the people who commit these crimes have serious deficiencies but it removes the opportunity to re offend, the parole hearings the victims have to attend and saves the taxpayers a ton of money.

  18. Dave Parkinson puts it very well: the death penalty is an obstruction to justice, not an aid. Extraditing a prisoner to face a possible death penalty is not possible from the European Union. Turn yourself in to face possible execution? Unlikely either. The death penalty is a greater deterrent to turning oneself in rather than committing the offence.

    Jurisdictions with the death penalty continually have higher rates of violent crime than those without. That’s because of the demeaning of human life inherent in such a system.

    It is also widely recognised that the death penalty is the ultimate violation of human rights. Canada has joined the majority of the world’s countries in abandoning the death penalty. By doing so we have helped other nations leave it also. Cuba recently emptied its death row – because of pressure from other nations like Canada.

    Canada cannot legally bring back the death penalty (we have ratified international legal instruments that prevent it and our Supreme Court has precedent that the death penalty is shocking to the Canadian conscience.

    Some here have claimed that the death penalty would save money, yet not one US state has found that to be the case. The death penalty in fact costs many times more that of life without parole. Others claim it deters crime, yet statistical studies continually fail to show any unique deterrent value that can be attributed to executions. Others have claimed that DNA is all you need – except that not every murder case is death-eligible, that evidence can become contaminated (accidentally or deliberately), DNA may be present for a variety of reasons and we still find innocent people convicted today. Living in Toronto it should only be too apparent that Dr Charles Smith, if Canada had a death penalty, would have send many innocent parents to their death.

  19. old white guy says:

    it is imoral not to use the death penalty when it is proven 100% that someone is guilty of premeditated murder.

  20. Jazz363611 says:

    Killing people that have killed people so as to show that it is wrong to kill people seems very disjointed…

  21. Mireille says:

    Agree!!!! In cases like these, the death penalty should definitely been brought back. Good for you Mr. Mammoliti.

  22. megatron says:

    This clown Giorgio should be designing clothes and get far away from politics,, Ask our neighbors south of the border how that death penalty thing doing ,,The killing and crimes are more up than ever , This fool thinks that before PERPS go out to commit violence they stop and say ” i better not.. we have a death penalty” ..LOL,,The death penalty is nothing but FOOLS GOLD to think it acts as some deterrent,, And to make matters worse in a justice system that’s NEVER perfect – where we see people getting release on wrongful conviction.. this should really play well when things go wrong.

  23. The case of Sick Kids coroner Charles Smith who botched dozens of cases and sent innocent parents and relatives to prison for nothing is case and point of how the Coroner at a reputable hospital like Sick Kids, working for the police, can effectively manipulate the evidence to convict innocent people on behalf of the crown or prosecutor. DNA evidence changes nothing, when labs are caught mishandling or faking results, and so called ‘experts’ who interpret the results for the crown to the judge and jury are later found to be incompetent liars.

    Many cases have no DNA evidence and are based on false eyewitness testimony, jailhouse snitches who will say anything to get a deal, or purely circumstantial ones where the blurred facts can be few and far between.

    As for the cost of rehabilitation and parole hearings, they are less expensive than the implementation of the death penalty, if you want to save money, capital punishment cost more time, resources and money than any sentence of years does. Furthermore, I’m sure victims would be more upset by constant execution dates and delays as the case worked it’s way through the system, along with the additional publicity that would ensue every new execution date announced. Inevitably your solution would significantly magnify the pain of the victims by exposing them to this over and over until the final appeals were exhausted in 20 – 25 years or so.

    And again, as in the case of the Eaton centre shooter, he would never have turned himself in.
    In the case of Magnotta, Canada would face years of extradition hearings from the EU because of it.

    In the end the cost to taxpayers would be significantly more, and the pursuit of justice even less effective.

  24. David Willis says:

    For people like Luka Magnotta, it would be unfair not to have the death penalty and have premeditated murderers continuing to live their lives after ending some one else’s. What right does a murderer have to life? So long as the case is proven 100%, a murderer should also be killed, plain and simple.
    How would you feel as a tax payer is someone murdered your loved one and was later released from prison after being cared for by your tax?

  25. Shinto says:

    There is no point in showing Sociopaths there moral misgivings by shoving your philosophy into there faces.
    The Death penalty is a valid and moral when used against those with no morals or no ability to learn from there crimes.

    So Dave Parkinson you are wrong.
    Miss Connections you are wrong. ( the whole world will only go blind if only half of the world are criminals )

    Most of the crap I see opposing death penalty are from the Bleeding hearts who are DILUTED into believing you can reform a Psychopath.

  26. Shinto says:

    I ment Deluded not Diluted *

    And Dave not having the death penalty did not stop Luka from fleeing the country. One cannot make certain what criminals will do. These sociopaths are a drain to our nation. If you really don’t want the death penalty there should be a law were only the Bleeding hearts pay the taxes to keep them incarcerated. I will not waste a dime in your philosophical adventures.

  27. S. Wolf says:

    I can think of at least three fellows (Marshall, Milgaarde and Morin) who, between them, spent over 37 years in jail for murders they were later PROVEN innocent of, who might have a less flattering opinion of the death penalty. Because, if we’d still had it back then, we’d probably be standing over their graves going “Oops, sorry, our mistake.”

  28. Mandy says:

    I am a bleeding heart! But, I am a wire and a mother also. I think that the laws are not strict enough and repeat offending continues to happen. I think that child molesters are protected more than are children are. I am for the death penalty in severe cases. This is crazy why should I have to live in fear and fear for my children because these sick individuals. To much talking not enough action

  29. Shark says:

    For anyone who thinks the death penalty does not prevent crime, let me ask you this…

    Name One Person, who was given the Death Penalty, and then re-offended??

    Case Closed…

  30. niamh says:

    i think what he did is disgusting, disgusting, disgusting. he uploaded videos about the video on the 16th……days before the murder ever even took place and i think he should burn in hell but…..kill a man who killed a man —then who kills the man who killed that man?

  31. John Pray says:

    I find the bleeding hearts reason for not having a death penalty to be seriously lacking. In this day with DNA and other investigative tools most convicted murders are not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, they are guilty beyond any doubt. This in no longer the 1970′s or 1980′s we do not hear about the next David Milguard anymore because now it simply does not happen. To the foolish man who said we can not bring back the death penalty because of an international treaty we signed and it would be against international law, I am sorry there is no nice way to put this. YOUR WRONG, Canada is a sovern nation and what happens with in our borders and with our laws is our business not the utterly corrupt United Nations. As for the arguement that it is a violation of human rights, commiting murder is a violation of human rights. The carrying out of a sentence after a person has had a fair and just defense and yet still been found guilty is NOT a violation of human rights. By the way the UN Human Rights commission considers true life imprisonment to be a violation of human rights as well. As for EU countries will not send our criminals back to us to stand trial because they may be executed very very few run to Europe to get away from Canadian justice and I do not think we will see a steep rise in accused criminals taking it up. For those who say taking a life is wrong no matter the reason, grow up, there is a huge difference between a soldier killing an enamy soldier, or the state executing a murder, than Mr. Husbands walking into the eatons center pulling a firearm and pulling the trigger, or what Russel Williams, Paul Benardo, Peter John Peters, or Robert Picton did, Besides an execution is not even a killing in my opinion it is the carrying out of a sentence after you have been tried, convicted by a jury of your peers, and had your appeals turned down. It is the permanant removal of a violent, dangerous person from society. Prisoners who have been executed do not re-offend. A tightening of our justice system is long over due. The bleeding hearts will tell you crime is down and violent crime is really down but what year are you comparing it to Canada’s worst year for violent crime in the late 1970′s or what the crime rate in 1962 when the last execution was carried out. Canada has become a much more violent place than the Canada my parents grew up in. Then again my grand parents were part of the greatest generation that ever lived, to bad thier children (the baby boomers) turned out to be a bunch of spinless whiners. Life should meen Life, rapist should spend 10 years in prison minimum, armed robbers 15-20, child molesters life should meen life, and Cop Killers, Child Killers and Multiple Murders should Hang from the neck until DEAD and may God have mercy on their soul.

  32. Brian says:

    The problem with the death penalty is that if you are wrong and convict the wrong person there is no way to reverse the decision (Guy Paul Morin). The solution to the problem is make the penalty more like it is in the US. If you commit murder or some other crime make the penalty fit the crime not 6 years or 12 years. Life should be life and not in a nice “hotel”, put them in solitary confinement in the basement of a prison and let them out for 1 hour a day and maybe they will think twice about what they have done.

  33. Linda says:

    Death penalty works as a detterent when used effectively, meaning within 2 years-NOT 30. Anyone who equates calling for the legal return of executions for dangerous, evil, parasites in society with what some of these bastards do to their victims is a complete moron. Executing innocent men is a tired old arguement that doesn’t stand up in these times of scientific certainty. Execution should be reserved for the absolute worst of those convicted of 1ST DEGREE MURDER. Sex killers, serial killers, torture killers etc. Support wouldn’t be so high if we had true life sentences and consecutive sentencing.

  34. Jim says:

    Okay… facts are this:

    1. Capital punishment is MORE expensive for taxpayers, not less. This is because legal costs for appeals gobble up more public money than it costs to keep someone in jail for a lifetime.

    2. There is absolutely no evidence that capital punishment is a deterrent. It does not reduce the number of murders. And that makes sense. People who kill other people are not mentally stable. They don’t carefully weigh the consequences of their actions before they kill someone.

    If you think murderers are let out on parole too early, then vote for stricter sentences without parole. Capital punishment is a ridiculous solution that will raise our taxes and won’t make us any safer. Big government has never found a way to make capital punishment work. It’s a failed idea, and no civilized country in the world (except the United States) still practices it.

  35. PrinceLH says:

    Bring it back and make sure sentence is carried out within 2 years of conviction. In the U.S. people stay on death row for 20 years. We’ve seen enough gruesome murders, the last few years, in Canada. When I think about he abducted children and the innocent being preyed on, makes it a must going forward. I don’t want to spend one cent more to keep these people fed in prison. Good Ridance to the murders of innocence!

  36. danieljchristie says:

    A murder is a murder, Georgio. It doesn’t matter who commits the murder -a criminal or the state. It’s all murder. So I guess what you’re telling us is you’re in favour of state-santioned murder? Take your time answering. Just once, think something through before you stick your foot in your mouth.

  37. Norris says:

    Judging from the comments here, the death penalty is controversial to say the least. However, contrary to at least one writer’s opinion it IS in Councillor Mammoliti’s purview to voice his concerns, as it is is for all of as, as we are doing here. The death penalty is NOT a deterrent. It does not provide closure for victims’ families, but it can server to protect us from monsters who, if ever escaped from custody, would kill again. I stand with the Councellor in his opinions for that reason. At the very least, fresh debate should be encouraged. Calling people names and being nasty doesn’t serve any purpose.

  38. isabel says:

    I find it funny that this guy represents ward 7 – one of the most socially burdened wards in our city. There is not enough they can do to support the population with the sociial services that they so desperately need so his solution would be to kill off his constituents. way to go idiot. Take care of your ward before you let the crap flow from your mouth – if you don’t you may not have a seat come next election.

  39. just do it.... says:

    The latest report from corrections Canada is that it costs the taxpayers $312 per prisoner / per day, why should we let someone like Magnotta (if convicted) get 3 meals a day when a good portion of Canadians themselves can’t afford 3 meals a day? Retire at 65, a life of honest work, and the Canada Pension Plan will fork out a maximum of $11,840.04 annually to supposedly keep you fed, clothed and sheltered. Land a bed in jail via rape, murder or any other heinous criminal act, and you’re suddenly worth $113,974 a year to the federal government. Say Magnotta is convicted with DNA evidence (so there is no doubt whatsoever), what good would it do us keeping him alive?…nothing…. Do we have anything to gain?…obviously the answer is NO…it just costs you and I money

    For all of you who do not support capitol punishment, take a moment and read Brenda’s posting, if you went through what she did, you would reconsider…..

  40. monib80 says:

    There is no available conclusive data on using the death penalty as a deterrent for murder. If it did.. great… bonus. Some of us want to see the death penalty reinstated as a punishment. Murderers will murder regardless, just as paedophiles will rape children regardless, but 25 to life for the rape and murder of a child is an insufficient consequence to that child’s family wouldn’t you agree? It’s about making the punishment fit the crime.
    In cases of absolute guilt (ie: Bernardo and Homolka) there is no doubt in my mind they deserve to die.

  41. US observer says:

    The conclusive data on the death penalty as a deterrent is that NO ONE WHO HAS RECEIVED THE DEATH PENALTY RE-OFFENDS as offered in a few of the entries above. This is an undeniable fact.

    While we still have the death penalty option in the US the processes are clearly bloated with bureaucracy preventing it from providing the larger scale deterrent it could be if processed in a more efficient & expedient manner. Undeniably our system in the US needs allot of work.

    It was also mentioned above that no large government has ever been able to make capital punishment work but that shouldn’t be construed to imply that it can’t work especially in light of all of the scientific advances in recent years notably in regards to DNA identification. There are still occasional issues with that as with most new technologies but results can also be verified independently prior to moving forward with an execution & it doesn’t take 20 years – that is the unfortunate consequence of what we have done to our processes.

    The recent events involving this deviant Luka Magnotta is the driving force behind voicing these opinions; I am not familiar with the other cases included in the discussions above.

    This thing, neither human nor animal, not only killed, dismembered, and even ate some of his victim, he flaunted his complete disregard for life, suffering & law globally via video on the internet then defiantly mailing the victims bits to government offices & schools to further fortify & publicize his contempt for the Canadian government, officials, laws & authority.

    This disgusting deviant cannot be rehabilitated. The publicly posted videos of this criminally psychotic aberration torturing & killing animals should have been a red flag as the most commonly known precursor to human torture & killing however that said, being a victim of childhood molestation as concluded in other press releases IS NOT. Childhood molestation is neither a reason nor excuse for any of this.

    There are literally MULTITUDES OF US that were molested, sodomized & /or raped as children that couldn’t even conceive of the thoughts required to consider such heinous crimes. If anything I personally have devloped broader range of understanding certain behaviors with greater capacity for empathy & compassion. The abuse provided new, significant & personal understanding of the “do onto others” golden rule that has since featured predominantly in every aspect of my life over the years. I am not an exception; many develop these skills following the healing process.

    These deviants need to be euthanized, preferably prior to reproducing. If the laws cannot or will not be changed this case best represents the need for assessing cases individually to determine & provide for exceptions to that law in extraordinary cases such as this.

    I hope something is done because 25 years at his age leaves ample opportunity for this carnage to both resume & accelerate.

  42. Donna says:

    Bring Back the Death Penalty!!!!

  43. kevin tugwell says:

    I agree with him please bring it back. Look at all the terrible crimes that go on here in Canada and really for what?? People only do it cause they know they will get away with it so hey why not right?? I think it should be back it is the right thing to do. We can not spank our kids these days cause that is wrong. Yet I think I think if kids got a spanking NOT a BEATING they to would have more respect for rules manners and life. For adults who murder someone for no good reason should pay with their life. I mean we have become weak and doing so to much of this goes on. We have all the tools and such now days that we can get the right person so please spare me the Bull that what if they got the wrong guy. We need tougher laws now before things get more out of hand. Remember that guy who took the other guys head off on the Greyhound?? Well he almost walks free now. So what does that tell people?? Besides why put people like this in jail just to waste tax payers money and so they can come out meaner then ever. We really need to look at our laws and fix them. No we are not playing God here at all we are making it a safe place for us and our kids. In closing let me ask you this do you really want murders walking around in your Town or City when you have family and loved ones?? Sure it may not be your Town or City but it is someones.

  44. Jim says:

    This man is absurd, the death penalty is immoral at its very core. Statistical data from South of the border has proven that it does NOT serve as any sort of deterent and the motivator that most Pro-DP views have is the idea of retribution. This line of thinking i view as very barbaric and based on ancient and out dated an eye for an eye principles. If the government reinstates the Death Penalty I’m moving to Germany for I don’t want to continue paying tax dollars to a government that views itself above human life.

  45. Peter Barrett says:

    I do not care for most of the above comments..I look at the gallows as a cost saving measure…..forget many many appeals.You did it.You Pay. And sentence is carried out at an un-announced venue to discourage copy cats looking for their 15 mins of fame……I have issues with those breathing the same air as me knowing the horrific violent behavior they displayed.
    I will give them the first death….the Creator can give them the second death if they so believe.
    I am not looking to change peoples’ behavior..we will always kill each other..BUT a sick bastard like bernardo/holmolka and russell williams…..well…try….and I mean try VERY hard to convince me and others ,that we should pay 100K$$ per year to warehouse them…I’ll await your reply.
    And Mr. George……there are a LOT of people like me that think likewise….do not be discouraged..we have listened to them…….NOW IT IS OUR TURN.

  46. Adam says:

    Bring it back.

    Do you guys really want to pay for people like Luca Magnotta to sit in prison for the 25 years?
    How about Bernardo? Do you enjoy paying for him to live out his life in prison?

    For the people rambling on about the states.. Only a handful of states still carry out capital punishment. So trying to say “look how it works in the states”, you argument is invalid. Please find me stats directly from prison facilities or government institutions that state capital punishment doesn’t work, and not some independent poll done by some biased person, paper, or other form of media.

    Lets talk about the Eaton Centre shooting.
    Do you really think the guy responsible for getting a child shot in the head really deserves to live, all based on some street cred?

    By the time anyone reaches their “teens” in this country, we ALL know murder is wrong. Why should we give special treatments to murderers?
    Our laws are to lax.

    Have innocent people been sentenced to death in the past? Yes. But take a look at just how far DNA evidence and other evidencing techniques have come. It’s come a LONG way since Canada’s last execution (which wasn’t a wrongful conviction).

    I’d be willing to bet a lot of people would change their minds if their child was brutally murdered.
    Just remember that humans will ALWAYS kill humans. We are animals just like any other in the animal kingdom.

  47. Steve Paesani says:

    Far as I’m concerned the US’s use or non use of the death penalty is not the reference point for wether or not the death penalty is or is not to be discussed or decided as it misses the entire point of intelligent discussion
    and the kist of what is being discussed.

    The fact is that without a death penalty the offending persons are incarcerated and thus housed (in some fashion), fed and clothed. The persons guarding them are provided all the things of life: food, clothing , homes, vehicules, sports equipment, recreational gear, entertainment systems etc.. etc.. etc..

    The question then is not wether this or that country has or doesn’t have a death penalty.
    The question then is: do you want to grow and pick crops for the prisoner? Do you want to make their clothes? Do you want to build their housing? Their beds? Do you want to support the guards and their families’ lifestyles?

    And if your daughter was raped? Would you grow crops, pick them and feed the rapist of your daughter? The murderer of your son? The killer of your mother or father?

    I ask because without a death penalty that is exactly what happens. No different than post conquering where ‘subjects’ would grow the crops and feed those who murdered their family members. In fact no different than today where the descendants of those conquered provide for the descendants of those who did the conquering.

    Like it or not we still live in a monarchistic world that sustains the idea of not only providing for those who murdered the family members of others yet having the very families that were victims of the murder provide for the murderers.

    May explain why some people would rather not discuss the subject at all.

  48. Steve Paesani says:

    PS:
    “The rich play, the rich pay”

  49. dean evenson says:

    I truly believe our society would be better off and very much safer if we were to reinstate the death penaltyfor crimes such as murder but exspecially for crimes against children if a person has shown and been proven to be guilty and can’t or won’t be able to be cured ( that is such missed used term) and is unsafe to be in the public then the Goverment should be stepping up and never mind the small percentage of the People who are truly against Capitol punishment. The vote of the victims and thier loved ones should hold president. I would truly like to turn on the news and hear something normal or at least something that doesn’t leave me trembling with disgust and outright rage I have got to the point of turning my tv off at news time and only scanning the newspapers. Yes we have to protect the acccused”s right but thats what we have the Courts for and if and only when they have been found guilty beyond all doubt they should be put down like any animal that can’t be trusted, who cares then about thier rights? they forfited them by thier acts against society If we know someone is a danger to the public then it is by definition the responsibilty of the Goverment to not name them but to remove them as a threat not lock them up and have the the people shoulder the exspence of (Caring for them) Please actually listen to the everday persons opion on this matter go to the streets and homes I’m sure the votes collected would be vastly different then the polls done by the office seekers and bleeding hearts

  50. Michelle says:

    Do you think canada should re institute the death penalty for serious crimes? i need the length to be 150 words and a couple of reasons why or why not

    Please and thank you

  51. san says:

    kill magnotta!!

  52. Matt says:

    The death penalty SHOULD be brought back because it is better than a life sentence, for example, how many murderers have killed people in prison??? Annually, 10-15% of all prisoners are murdered in prison by murders. So for people who say that if we kill the murders we are wrong, what’s better, losing ONE life or MULTIPLE. Now the death penalty should apply only to murders who, we are certain, are 100% guilty.

  53. geradr says:

    …um,this guy whos trying to bring back the death sentance is a murder of his on own class, he really as bad as those who take a life, hes actually talking about taking a life,who has the right,no one ad damn sure not an asshole like this guy, those who think it will cut taxes back…is it worth someones life, sadly alot would say yes, thats just what our surcity has come to, instead of of fighting for the right to act oike God try fighting for something that will help us, like fighting the FDA and the deaths they cause yearly, or help cut taxes, u make me sick As your first thought is taking another life cause inmates arnt scared of u , so lets get them in line by taking a life, no ur life should be taken u sick fuck

  54. a says:

    YES. WE DO. whenever a child is killed, raped. and for horrific heinious crimes. we are already overpopulated. KILL THE SCUM. they just repeat the crimes as soon as they are out. just read the news to hear how many people have killed over and over again , while out on bail even.bring back the death penalty for certain undisputable cases.

  55. Why says:

    YES Magnotta MUST BE KILLED

  56. chris says:

    too people who dont believe in the death penalty try working in a prison. those people are the worse people on the planet. so many men have raped anywhere from dozens to hundreds of women and children. killed multiple people , and have no remorse for it. they feel like victims and that they shouldnt be in there at all. its also how sad it is to never really hear any of these people’s crime on the news.

  57. Steve Paesani says:

    Asides from any tone of opinion one way or the other Mammoliti is talking about bringing it into discussion.

    The Conservative Government’s position to not discuss it is for itself and it’s members and not Canadians.

    The Government simply does not have that power nor are there any laws to back anyone looking to stop Canadians from discussing it even in a public forum.

    Setting all my judgements aside one way or the other I believe it needs to be discussed.

    I am not alone.

    .

  58. justin says:

    DNA testing makes it so all we need is a supervised lab and then of to the gas chamber with you-no more tax dollars wasted on courts or feeding or housing the guilty for a life time-of course, this is only for murder and rape cases and altho it may save money and be incredibly more accurate, we all know the government loves to hate good ideas.

  59. attila says:

    i think u r racist i am canadian yes im talkig 2 the americans
    oh and i also think that the death penalty is good

  60. Aaron says:

    Whats the population in Canada just over 35 million and the population of the states more than 315 million, I’m sick of hearing the excuses “its not lowering the murder rates for them” with so many people in the states chances are there will be more sadistic people.And with out a doubt someone willing to take a life has no consideration for their own well being. By committing murder or sexually/physically assaulting an innocent, defenseless child that should wave all rights to life and especially health care. don’t make the innocent citizens pay to keep them alive in hopes that one day they can be rehabilitated and jeopardize our safety. and if your really think the majority of offenders will come turn them selves in, and the tooth fairy will start putting hundred dollar bills under all our pillows then have a conditional charge that sentences any who turn them selves in will be given a lighter sentence like castration or life in prison.

  61. veronique says:

    sept/30/14
    well I thought we got it back,well well whats wrong here???? we need it,who kills get killed,but leave them in jail for 6 years till they die so they get to think what they done and whats infor them in a few years to come, come on CANADA get real we need this .also laws for angone hurt or kill a cat or dog.even poor babies left in a car they say I forgot t they check for aure they leaft there babies for DEAD,as a poor animals.
    whats wrong here.

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