Quotable Quotes: March 22 City Council Meeting on Transit Edition

- March 22nd, 2012

TTC chair Karen Stintz

TTC chair Karen Stintz at Wednesday’s city council meeting on transit (Craig Robertson/Toronto Sun)

Here’s a rundown of some of the comments councillors made during Wednesday’s transit debate:

“Do you normally build a subway to service gas stations?”
TTC chair Karen Stintz makes a point when she asks TTC staff about the lack of development at Warden and Sheppard (and therefore the lack of need for a subway).

“We are in a quagmire.”
Budget Chief Mike Del Grande on the city’s transit funding problem.

“We have a serious decision and it is going to be up to the council to determine again if we are going to ‘St. Clair-ize’ this whole city.”
Councillor Doug Ford evokes the St. Clair streetcar right of way to make his point.

“Adam, could you shut up for one minute?”
Councillor Doug Ford pausing in the middle of his speech to ask Councillor Adam Vaughan to be quiet.

“I don’t like taxes but there is no other way to run the system.”
Deputy Mayor Doug Holyday on a parking levy to fund transit.

“I’m as fiscally conservative as anyone, you need to have the money but you also need to have good plans, the two have to come together.”
Councillor Joe Mihevc on why he doesn’t support the subway funding plan floated by Scarborough councillors

“I feel in my gut that we must have a subway network as the foundation of economic growth in the City of Toronto.”
Councillor Norm Kelly on building subways.

“We don’t have LRT vehicles in the city of Toronto but dammit we are going to bring them here today with this vote and you know what LRTs are sleek, beautiful, powerful, reliable machines.”
Councillor Glenn De Baeremaeker making the case for LRTs.

“I have never seen councillors so confused as they are today.”
Speaker Frances Nunziata tells council.

“Imagine where we’ll be 100 years from now … maybe you will all have your own personal little flying machines.”
Councillor Anthony Perruzza making the case for LRTs to Toronto councillors.

“Speaker, I would like the court jester to answer that question.”
Councillor Anthony Perruzza demanding Councillor Giorgio Mammoliti answer his question.

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11 comments

  1. JANE DOE says:

    stupid responses…from idiot councillors….wasting taxpayers money….They could easily built one to two subways stops…and buy fast speed busess.. Too simple a solution…..? Yes…for these dumbells…They would rather rip roads for years, tie up traffic, create future lawsuits, bankrupt businesses…. and spend billions on lrts slower than businesses that many car drives live me will not use….. Today I am ashamed of the people at Toronto city hall……The big losers are the taxpayers and businesses of Toronto……..Its time that the Ontario end this debate and not give the $8.4 billion dollars to these horrible spend thrifts at Toronto city hall… These deceitful clowns cannot be trusted with our tax money..

  2. RHM says:

    @Jane Doe, You clearly do not understand any of this issue. For the funding the city currently has in place, the decision was obvious. Obvious to anyone with an actual working brain, who knows the actual facts. LRTs can bring service to large areas of the suburbs, service a greater number of people, all for the cost of what 2 subway stops would cost. Do you think the people along Finch will be happy paying higher taxes to pay for a subway along Sheppard?

    Ford had over a YEAR to come up with ANY kind of business plan to say how he plans to fund subways. He came up with nothing, except this last minute new tax to pay for it…..only trouble is, that new tax would not pay for it. It was a last minute attempt at conning council. We all love subways, but we can’t afford them. Furthermore, the city of Toronto is supposed to pay higher taxes to get subways to help clear the roads for the 905s who use our roads every day?

    The LRT system is expandable, services more people for less cost. It had already been studied and vetted for 7 years. Ford has no plan, just a lot of B.S. As for disruptions, do you even know what it takes to build a subway?? It is mammoth disruption. It’s disruptive on a scale that would make LRT construction look like pot hole filling.

    But it’s clear you’ve bought Rob Ford’s PR company empty sound-bite spin. No facts, no plan, no reality. Just a lot of ridiculous nonsense from a grossly incompetent mayor.

    This is what city streets look like with subway construction:
    http://www.railforthevalley.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/1949_Toronto_YongeSubwayConstruction3.jpg

  3. James says:

    @ Jane Doe – honey, please publish your real name so that, when our beautiful new transit system is in place, we can deny you access. Stay in your car. That little threat doesn’t bother me at ALL.

  4. Wilma de Bruyn says:

    As we can conclude from Councils decision they still decide in their mindset of “snail mail” vs. email.
    travel. It appears majority of the Councillors are baggage from the Millerites era. No forward thinking, just the present and chomping at the bit to spend, spend, spend, with no due diligence
    and due process involved. I guess the “Hot Dog” city of Toronto has a reason for having hot dogs on the go for lunch. Going backwards in stead of forword. The taxpayers now will continue to eat hot
    dogs to pay for this fiasco.

  5. Chandra says:

    LRT is a stupid third rate transit for people who are not going anywhere in a hurry! I will use my car anytime against this kind of nonsense!

    Miller administration never ever consulted public but secretly ran his agenda. Shame on that guy.

    We need high speed transit which can only occur underground.

    Shame on liberals for waisting money on all kinds of things but excluding the city where they get most of their votes. I hope people remember them during the next election.

    Adam Vaughan and his kind like Mihevic has no particular interest in Scarborough.

  6. Chandra says:

    You notice what Adam Vaughan is saying? If he is going to be absent then..

    I thought these guys always said that Mayor is only one vote!

    Karen Stintz is one heck of a disaster for this city.

    I criticize Ford Administration for appointing her to that job. He can only appoint but not fire. Wow!

  7. Chandra says:

    James perhaps you can also give your real name! It is about pot calling the kettle black.

    Our city deserves high speed transit for working class, not the welfare bums who live off the welfare teet of the city and province and have all the time to travel for leisure, and for them time has no value.

    Stinkz is going to convert this city into a shit city.

  8. Chandra says:

    “We don’t have LRT vehicles in the city of Toronto but dammit we are going to bring them here today with this vote and you know what LRTs are sleek, beautiful, powerful, reliable machines.”

    Glen the beer maker: Go make beer. ‘LRTs are sleek, beautiful, powerful, reliable machines.” Glen that is lot of meaningless crap you are saying.

    Folks there is no reference to how it solves anyone’s city travel problem.

    With this kind of a statement, I say this guy belongs to the famous place where they keep people with mental malfunction.

    Too bad politicians set up their own asylums. Be it Queen’s Park or Toronto City Hall. They don’t have to face the public there!

    Beer maker found that out a while ago!

  9. Chandra says:

    Karen Stintz’s photo shows her finest hour of leadership! What a disaster lady! She definitely has anger management problem. How does her leadership skills stack up with this kind of facial expression?

    Sorry Rob I think you made a big boo boo in choosing her!

  10. Wilma de Bruyn says:

    If we have enough Tax Slaves working to support a “Welfare State”, and countless scandals from the
    Federal Sponsorship Scandal to the “Orange” helicopter scandal, plus rich pensions for the Feds.,
    Provincial and Municipal. We certainly should have no problem “Getting shovels into the ground”
    for common sense SUBWAYS, so the one’s working can go to work in a seamless amount of time
    and ease.

  11. Trevor says:

    Anyone see a bus around ?

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