VIDEO: Flush the bathroom bill

- October 7th, 2012

Categories: Politics

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7 comments

  1. I. Stewart says:

    You sir are a tea-bagging bumpkin. Tossing red meat to red necks is hardly journalism, and smells more of Glen Beck than Edward R. Murrow.

    This kind of behaviour is the norm in the US, but I expect more from fellow Canadians. Interestingly so does the rest of Canada, just look at your ratings – pathetic.

  2. Jenn says:

    I don’t understand how women will be put at risk if this bill passes. As stated the bill is for protection against discrimination based on gender identity/expression. So, all it does is allow for transgender people to have access to the bathroom that matches their gender presentation. This does not give them freedom to commit criminal acts within the bathroom.

    Just because one or two individuals who fall under the transgender label have acted improperly does not mean that the majority of trans people are like that. I don’t think ALL conservatives are a certain way, or that ALL french people are the same.

    As for Mr. Anders comment about “common sense” and “plumbing”, how much sense does it make for a trans woman who appears totally female but hasn’t had surgery to change her “plumbing”, to walk into the men’s room? Talk about a woman at risk!

    I think everyone needs to dial down the rhetoric and look at this bill rationally. It’s going to prevent a minority group from facing discrimination less often. There is no practical reason to deny this legislation!

  3. Alain says:

    That a government is involved in passing legislation pertaining to toilets takes the cake. No, I. Sewart, this is not “tea-bagging”, it is a matter of common sense. I have the same reply to Jenn. It actually is really simple in that you are born either male or female with the corresponding equipment. Until there is a surgical change in the equipment, use the appropriate toilet. Most of us are fed up with the tyranny of the minorities, and in this case a fraction of a minority. Get real

  4. Jenn says:

    Alain, the world is not black and white. As much as you may want there to be absolutes in life, it is not always the case. I’m not sure you fully understand what it means to be transgender. Yes, when a child is born they are always identified as male or female based on their physical appearance. However, as the child gets older it becomes clear to them that the gender they appear to be on the outside doesn’t fit with the gender that lies within their brain. As hard as it is to believe, it is possible to have a female gendered brain within a male body. The reverse is also possible, a male gendered brain in a female body. As of right now, medical technology has not progressed to a point were transgender people can change their brain gender to match their body gender. The only treatment available for this in-congruence is to physically change the body to match the person’s brain gender. Not making this sort of change often leads to a life of depression, suffering and possibly suicide.
    So when a person begins this process of change, they usually have to do so in stages – dressing as the opposite gender, then hormones and then surgery. Every case is different so not all trans people follow these steps or complete them in that order, but typically that is how transition works.
    I hope you can understand why a trans woman who was born with male parts, should begin using the women’s washroom once she has started living as a female regardless of whether she has completed surgery or not. It would be very inappropriate for a trans woman to continue to use the men’s room if she is dressing as female and is on female hormones. She would look as much out of place in the men’s room as you would look in the women’s room.
    There are always going to be jerks and perverts and criminals in society, and they are still going to do bad things. But allowing trans people to use the washroom that corresponds to their physical presentation is not going to encourage or prevent any kind of criminal activity. The two are unrelated and the bill should be passed without opposition.

  5. Brian Mouland says:

    Hey Stewart did you read the story. Try debate not cheap insults troll

  6. Alain says:

    Oh dear, Jenn, I am well aware that the world is not black and white, which really has nothing to do with the topic. I remain unconvinced and repeat that as long as a person is physically male or female, they should use the appropriate washroom. Their numbers do not warrant the expense of creating a separate washroom for the confused. Furthermore, you have no evidence whatsoever to claim that what is proposed in the bill will not be abused and end in criminal activity.

  7. Bill Elder says:

    The solution is simple, you build a new washroom for the plethora of new sexes – “mens”. “women’s” and “confused things”.

    Use the the “thing’s room” if there are plumbing identity issues.

    If this bill psses, it’s the last time I will allow the kids to use a public washroom, heck it’s the last time I will use one. I refuse to be subjected to every neurotic pervese sexual proclivity walking the streets because some cloistered bureaucrat wants to feed the PC monster. Better yet, make that bureaucrat swamp the floors in one of these new mixed gender heads and let him see first hand how things work out before we think of surrendering our gender privacy to accommodate a sexually confused micro minority.

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