A day off

- February 10th, 2013

The Senators don’t look the same without Jason Spezza.
They haven’t got a threat up front. That’s the issue.
Kyle Turris is a nice player. He is not a first-line centre.
He is not used to the attention. He thrives from being able to play a secondary role behind Spezza. That is why he has had success.
Look, Turris might develop into a first line role, he just isn’t there yet. He has gone eight games without a goal. The Senators can’t have that. Milan Michalek has gone six.
The Senators have lost four of their last five.
The Senators have lost six of their last nine.
Yes, this slide has to stop with the Buffalo Sabres coming to town. The teams behind them are gettting better. Don’t look now but the Philadelphia Flyers and New York Rangers are both coming.
It’s going to be an interesting week.
The scoring has to start.
The effort has to be better than the stinker on Saturday.
Buffalo Tuesday.
Pittsburgh Wednesday.
Toronto Saturday.
That’s the schedule ahead.
It’s a tough one. The Leafs believe under Randy Carlyle. They are much better. The Senators are slipping. They need to get back on their feet now.

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  1. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Turris said he would score 30 goals in the off-season, Murray thought the small sample size of last year was worth five years of term. Oops?

    I also don’t understand why it “has” to change. The Senators were picked by most publications to finish 8th in the East, a bubble playoff team. They are around 6 to 7th right now. Right where most people expect them to be.
    Again, I ask (again and again) why they HAVE to score or win? Will there be consequences? Will the players get traded? Made healthy scratches? Lose ice time? Anything? So far Paul MacLEan has put his foot down only once, and that was in game six of last year’s playoffs. Does he have the authority to do so again or will Murray step in?

    I was also wondering where the “Best Defenceman in Hockey” (According to Yorkie the Senators Booster and horrible head coach but acceptable assistant Dave Lewis) was last Saturday. That’s two shutouts in a week. If Karlsson is so extraordinary, why can’t he break the game open in a playoff-style game? If all we get from him is stat padding in pond hockey style games….then why sign him to a multi-year deal instead of a “bridge deal” like the Habs did with the equally bizarre and a little too outgoing Subban?

    The truth is Bruce this is a mediocre team. It’s held together by the ultra-talented (but suddenly quite inconsistent) Erik Karlsson and Jason Spezza’s underappreciaed skill. Silfverberg and Zibanejad are in full Country Club mode, they know no matter how badly they play the media will pom-pom them all day every day, as players don’t get critidized here unless they are asked to be by Bryan. And Bryan has put all his eggs into these very, very average looking prospects.

    But I am not worried. They will beat Buffalo because Buffalo is a garbage team. They will likely lose to Pittsburgh and Toronto is a push. If Kessel plays as he usually does against the Senators, they lose. If he is quiet, they can win.

    Either way Bruce, the Senators can afford to miss the playoffs for the foreseeable future….as the talk will be about prospects and the future, the Senators aren’t expected to make a run for the next while, no?

    Have a good Sunday.

  2. Mike8888 says:

    The Saturday game against Winnipeg had to be one of the worst games I have ever seen. Both teams looked like they were skating on dirt and were probably playing when they should have been napping.

    On the bright side, Bishop and Dacosta both looked pretty good.

  3. Bobby Goodman says:

    I really like Turris and think he would be a fabulous winger. If this team was deep (not shallow) with talent, Kyle could be Spezza’s right winger and score 30+ goals! His drought for the last 8 games isn’t entirely on him! What makes a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd line center, the depth of the organization, period. To say Turris isn’t a 1st line center is wrong…right now he is! Until the team drafts better or acquires players more suitable, this is the way it is!

    If what we saw of Toronto in the Montreal game is a sample of what we will see from the team, Ottawa will have to make some changes/additions to compete. Right now, Saturday does not bode well. Condra, Dog and DaOats-like Costa as the teams 4th line will get rolled over. Will Grant, DD and Jessiman get a chance?

    It is interesting that the Leafs can get big, tough and mobile defencemen but Ottawa finds the soft ones. Certainly have a swift, talented defenceman on the team but complimenting him with big meanies makes his game easier and he becomes that much more…willing! I do not see the value of a soft, invisible Lundin. The 28 year old has played 245 games in the NHL. Over that period he has but 43 points, was minus 9 which wouldn’t matter much if he was a physical player. He isn’t; in 245 games he incurred only 54 minutes in the box! So why is he playing for the Ottawa Senators? Of course Brown, Potvin, York, Yorks, Yorkie, Wilson and all the usual suspects think he is great! The soft/slow Philips is a flounder out there. Gonchar is smart and nifty but extremely slow and soft. Wiercioch is not fleet of foot and soft. Benoit is smart and nifty but small and soft. Karly is slight, very talented but is soft and can be intimidated. Methot is the only physical guy back there. Opposing forwards have a field day.

    Is it wise to keep Zibanejad in the NHL? I certainly don’t think so. In the bigs he will not grow. Players are bigger, faster, tougher. It will be impossible for him to develop some of the finer skills; his game will be dumping, skating madly after the puck and once getting it, moving it to someone else. He will be a chaser. He started to score some goals in the manures (3) and he was immediately promoted. Of course he and Silfverberg were saddled from the get go with unrealistic expectations invented by the le freres Murray. It was unfair of them to do that but on the other hand, not surprising as it has happened before; Rund’sbad was one such player and he is in the manures to make room for the 35 year old, extremely soft/slow Wade Redden.

    Why did Obrien sit and why does Daugavins play? Why was he resigned? If Sly and the Zibby get the opportunity to play and develop why not afford Boro the same opportunity? In 6g he was plus 1 and had 18 minutes in penalties. Lundin – 0.

    Oh, by the way, the 6-3, 200 lb Pajaarvi has one less goal than the 22 year old Silfverberg and is tied with Zibanejad with 1g and he scored 15 goals as an 18 year old.

  4. Bobby Goodman says:

    Are Pierre and I the only ones here who think that there is something very odd going on here in Ottawa? Zibby, the likeable, hard working but puck chasing 19 year old who scored but 5 goals in the SEL last year, 4 goals in the AHL this year and has but 1g a d 2a for the Sens will now be asked to be the pivot between God and Michalek. Why? Aren’t centermen supposed to be play makers? Don’t centermen possess patience because they are comfortable with the puck on their stick and want the puck on their stick? And, aren’t centermen supposed to be decent in the face off circle? Zibby is none of this. Really and truly this smacks of desperation. NHL players do not learn to scored goals, it is a natural skill. Rarely, and I have only seen it once in the NHL, has someone developed scoring touch and puck handling skills as they got older. Messier, when he came out was not great with the puck but he got to be very good over the years and a lot of that had to do with his nastiness! He got plenty of room.

    Da Costa would be a far better choice to be in the middle with God and Michalek on the outside. Wouldn’t he? Zilfverberg would be a far better choice. Smith or Obrien would be a better choice. Willl no one challenge the coach and ask why he “defaulted” to Zibby? Again, what does he really expect?

    Pierre said it right, the organization never realized how much Spezza meant to the team. Without him, silly things like this happen. This should be a red flag highlighting the lack of depth in the organization. Alfredsson suggests “Mika has used his speed well”. I don’t see it. He has been blessed in the 7 games here to play with the best and be rewarded time on the PP but has precious little to show for it. In spite of the meager numbers, he is hounded by hords of reporters, why? He even wonders why!

    If someone should offer that the team was put in a hole by the injury to Regin need to remember that there were question marks about him before the season began. He has played a couple decent games but after 12 he has 2 assists and is -1.

    The Sens promoted the ony two worthy of a promotion (with Hoffman hurt and the mysterious vanishing of “the kid who will be Spezza’s right winger for the next 10 years”). Benoit (in Ottawa, has averaged 15 minutes per game, wants and can do nice things with the puck, has registered 3 assists and is +1, but now sits for Lundin) and Silfverberg. Sly & Benoit led Bingo in scoring but the bar was lowered significantly for Zibby (4g and 7a in 23gm), but the crowds go wild!

    The media are calling Zibby’s promotion as a great opportunity, why? It would be valid IF he has shown ability to perform in the last 2 or more years, but he hasn’t. He will come to play and he will work very hard but the organization, again, is setting this young man up for failure. Of course it will be a no lose situation because if the silliness doesn’t work, he is only 19 and needs to be given more time!

  5. Mike8888 says:

    Oh Bobby, if Pajaarvi was on the Sen’s, you would be criticizing his slow development.

  6. Bobby Goodman says:

    I now have the answers to the question I’ve asked a dozen times or more about the whereabouts of Andre Petersson and what he hell happened!

    It is important to note that only last spring he was ranked 16th in hockey’s top 25 under 25 list! Everyone marvelled over his speed, natural scoring ability and phenominal hands! He really surprised no one with his 23 goal rookie season in the AHL and was behind ony Hoffman in team scoring. He did this playing for the worst team in the 30 team AHL!

    So he expected to be taking on a bigger role with the hockey club but that wasn’t the case from the get go. He took a back seat immediately to allow more ice-time for Silfverberg, Stone, Zibbanejad and others. This had to mystify him. Of course his numbers dropped off and although I didn’t read this in the article, it had to effect his attitude and play. He had to prove again what he could to and other didn’t have to prove a thing!

    He then suffered a season ending injury that required surgery!

    I am very sure he sits and wonders how 5g in the SEL, 3g and 7a in the AHL earns someone rock star status in the NHL! I am sure he wonders why 1g and 2a earns the same player so many opportunities playing with the teams very best. I am sure Hoffman has wondered the very same thing. I know I do.

  7. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Bobby, if you wonder why O’Brien and Gryba aren’t playing look at their draft years. They were both drafted by Muckler’s scouts and thus Murray can’t bring himself to give them a fair shake as it would wound his pride.
    If Murray had drafted them they’d be on the first line and we’d be reading page-length articles about them.

    The Leafs are no joke either. I watched them against Philly. That Komarov kid (A Russian-descended Finn, I believe) is a real pest. He kept hitting and hitting Giroux, then went after anyone else. Kadri has skill to burn and is also delivering vicious checks into boards or slashes to the backs of players. They have speed and decent goaltending.

    I say again, losing to the Leafs would be an embarassment beyond measure. Each player in that room needs to look at himself in the mirror if they lose to either the Sabres or the Leafs. Alfredsson alone (if His Majesty feels it worth His time) should put the game away, but will he or will he just sit on the bench where we’ll see pictures of his unshaven mug? He’ll likely finish the year with 9 or 10 goals with Silf following his example. Trade one of Zib or Silf for Ryan O’Reilly or a winger with some SIZE and MEANNESS. Silf said he’d stand in front of the net but he’s been called for goaltender interference before for doing so. Is he a marked man? Who knows.

    Has anyone seen the “Best Player in the NHL” Erik Karlsson since last Tuesday or so? I saw his picture on the back of a chocolate milk carton tht was being drunk by Zibanejad…if you’re the best shouldn’t you elevate and produce in close games? Playoff-style games? Or is Karlie too good for that type of play, might hurt himself?

    5-2 Senators tonight, a loss is unacceptable except against Pittsburgh!

  8. PaV says:

    Watching the game while waiting for family to pack. Potvin is the worst colour guy ever. Plain and simple. The guy is making a fool go himself on the air. He says Jan 19th one more time…. I am going to throw my iPad at the tv.

  9. PaV says:

    Hey guys did you the sound we heard off the post was the sound of frozen rubber hitting metal? Thanks Potvin!

  10. Mike8888 says:

    Yes Pierre. Karlsson was missing again last night. You and Bobby just keep criticizing everything Senators. It’s the same old thing repeated.

  11. KevinF says:

    Fascinating article in the Tor star this morning on the Sens org trying to keep the rowdy drunken blue and white horde out of their arena! Very funny Feschuk hits the nail on the head amateurish and silly at best! I
    Like the Team 1200 which I haven’t listened to for a second in more than a year I rarely read anything from the Ottawa Sun ( not all that interested in what Karla or Russell Williams are up to these days). Having said that I apologize if I missed it surely the beat guys who are at the rink every day reported about this in the Sun nes pas?
    I’m sure they don’t want to scooped by forces from the evil empire down the 401? I certainly think its newsworthy if only for the pure entertainment value.

  12. Bobby Goodman says:

    Mikey, Pajaarvi scored 15 goals as an eighteen year old! I know what he is capable of! Zibanejad, centering the teams best players (which can only be described as a desperate move by the hockey club as well as bizarre) has NEVER demstrated an ability to score goals or be offensive! Did you think he played well last night? Did you witness his great speed that God has praised him for? Did he look like a centerman to you? His one goal this year merits PP time, why? Again, in his 8th game, he didn’t get a goal or an anssist and did precious little. Silfverberg works very hard but again, he didn’t score a goal and didn’t register a single hit!

    Ottawa beat a team that has the 3rd least number of points in the 30 team league! They won the game but Buffalo held a territorial edge and the Sens allowed them to launch 42 shots on Anderson. Again, Anderson won the game. I was very impressed with 3 Sens, certainly Karlsson, he was like a man among boys because of his enormous talent but also because it was a very soft contest…hence the 9 shots. He alone was responsible for almost 1/3 of the team’s shot last night! Anderson was again spectacular and Methot was very good! He has fit in very nicely indeed and he brings a much needed physical presence.

    I wonder if you are still impressed with Lundin; he didn’t register a single hit in the contest. Da Costa, who should have been the one centering God and Michalek, again, didn’t score a goal or get an assist. Putting Zibby with them is really very silly. When Da Costa joined them on the PP, the line looked very good! Zibby after 1g and 2 a in the first three games has hit the wall with no goals or assists since; he looks like a kld who is lost and doesn’t belong. Silfverberg after 13 contests has but 3 pts. I have asked you and number of times Mikey, what you expect from them but you wont answer. Maybe I should ask you in a different way; what could they do that might be described as sub standard? Is it even possible that you might be disappointed in their performance?

    The Sens won and I am glad, but they certainly should have won the game. What is disconcerning is the PP; after 5 opportunities they came up empty! The Dog is filler. Greening is contributing nothing. Lundin does nothing. Obrien works hard but is exactly where he was last year. Knuckes and Gums aren’t playing the extemely physical game they need to (it is like they knew Bufffalo is that bad and took it easy on them). Gums has been great but Knuckles must return to what got him in the league. I have seen it often over the years, a physical player is put ina different role (for a variety of reasons) and they play differently. He has to get back to making anyone and everyone pay for touching the puck.

    Pierre, I have heard the Obrien thing a few times. Lest we forget, Murray was GM before Ottawa and he had scouting reports on every elegible amateur. He certainly should have known what he was drafting!

  13. Bobby Goodman says:

    As Bruce pointed out, Buffalo was the tonic for the winless drought, but how will the team perform against Pittsburgh, Toronto, Philly and New York? They will need all hands on deck especially for the game Saturday night. Not necessarily because the team is that talented, but because they are huge and VERY PHYSICAL! On the back they have: Phaneuf, 27, 6-3, 214; Franson, 25, 6-5, 213; Kosta, 27 61, 210, Holzer, 24, 6-3, 205; Fraser, 26, 6-4, 220, Komisarek, 31, 6-4, 240! They also have, perhaps, the nastiest 4th line in the NHL in: Mclement, 6, 205; Orr, 6-3, 222; and, Mclaren, 6-5, 230. The coach has let the dogs out and it looks awfully similar to the days of the Broad Street Bullies. Orr supenova’d on one play and punched 3 dfferent Hab players after trying to put Plekanek on the moon. Kosta fought the 5-8 Galagher. It is why I have so much respect for some of the little guys (especially Gallagher) in Montreal who didn’t back way. As I have said, teams need to be built for how the game is played in the NHL with the right balance of skill and toughness The NHL game is far different that how it is played in Europe. Ottawa has one of the softest teams in the league. I will be extremely impressed if Karlsson will get 9 or 11 shots on net and carry the puck as often as he does versus the soft teams. I realy hope so, but with only Knuckles and Gums (who are not heavy weights) the only ones capable and willing to go, it could be a tall order! We will see who shows up.

  14. Larry Stewart says:

    Just wondering why the GameDay page does not show Stephane Da Costa on the roster of players and yet he does show as the 4th line centre. Call-up or not, he should get equal treatment while he’s playing in the biggies.

    The GameDay roster is like that for both Tuesday and Wednesday.

  15. Mike8888 says:

    Bobby,
    The guy you have a man-crush on, Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson, has a total of 1 goal, 0 assists, & 2 PMs in 10 games with Edmonton so far this season. But wait, he was on fire with the Oilers AHL team, in 38 games he had 4 goals, 16 assists, and 10 PMs. He was drafted 10th overall in the 2009 draft. I guess the Sen’s should have picked him over Cowen. What would anyone want with a 6′ 5″ Canadian defenseman that’s proven he can play in the top 4.

  16. Bobby Goodman says:

    What an awful way to lose your year and the potential for a few prestigous awards…on a fluke injury. I feel bad for Karlsson.

    It is interesting however that after 16 minutes of icetime, he only registered a single shot! Not 9 or 11…only 1! The only time he rushed the puck was when the team had a man advantage. He didn’t have a single take away. In games that are played hard, he is vanishes, just like he did last year against the NYR in the playoffs! Can anyone explain his disapperance tonight against the Pens and 2 games before versus the Peg. He looked marvelous against Buffalo though, a team tied with the 3rd fewest points in the NHL. For people to say he is the best player in the league can’t be looking at Crosby or Malkin. They show up to play every game even the very tough ones. Thats what great players do.

    You’ve got to wonder why Zibanehad plays on the power play (one time for the full two minutes!). Really, it makes little sense. He is still stuck on his 3 pts and one goal; for all the time he played with the teams best, he registered only a single shot. Does anyone truly believe this is best for his development? Obrien now has 4 goals, even he would be a far better choice, don’t you think?! Silfverberg had no goals, no assists and not a single hit. Lundin was minus one and didn’t hit a soul. The Dog has now played 7 games and elevated his stats to minus 6! Greening is simply awful.

    Condra looked good the entire game…again. Why Benoit ever sits out games is beyond me; he is tiny and soft but he goes into corners, gets the puck and he led rushes. Anderson again, was fabulous.

    If there was any doubt the year was lost when Spezza went down, there is no doubt now! No point in bringing in loaners (Cullen, Sutton, Stillman, Commodore etc.) to squeak into the 1st round only to get bounced. The Sens should be what they are, a weak team, so that a great draft in a talent rich year could be assured! Perhaps some who deserve the opportunity will get a chance with the big club…is that possible?

    What could and should be done is bundle the two Swedes for Oreilly. Their stock falls with each game played. Also move Bishop, Lehner and/or Anderson to get another draft or two! But I suspect this wont happen.

  17. Bobby Goodman says:

    Mikey, are you telling me the 20 year old Pajaarvi who went 10th and scored 15 goals as an 18 year old in the NHL has (only) the same number of goals as Zibanejad who went 6th overall? And I will ask you again and again and again, what will the number 6 do this year?

    You go nuts over whoever the hell they tell you too. I am not a huge fan of Cowen and who is contributing more to their respective teams this year? Is a legitimate number 4 defenceman or did he simply get put in that position. Isn’t the situation earily similar to Zibanejad being a number one or two center and a first unit PP center (and his less than 30% face off win percentage). Because they are there, it doesn’t necessarily mean that’s where they belong!

    Cowen may be 6, 5 but he doesn’t punish anyone. He will be like a really slow Philips lacking mobility!

  18. Dennis_w says:

    On 2013-02-13, at 1:37 PM, “Wadasinghe, Darsh” wrote:

    I’m sure anyone with half a brain cell wouldn’t bother coming to the Bobby Blog very often anymore. It’s the same comedy from the (absentee) administrators to the more frequent contributors.
    Yes Bobby, only you and the “Voice of Reason” have a clue. Isn’t that the same “Voice of Reason” who has wanted to run Spezza out of town since forever and hates Karlsson or anyone with any skill?
    And you show your usual class by minimizing Karlsson’s injury as an afterthought while dumping on him for a supposed bad game. Your best buddy Hater would be proud. Being constantly wrong hasn’t made you any more gun-shy.
    And Visitor, of course Murray has it out for O’Brien and Gryba since they weren’t his picks. I guess it’s just a matter of time before Greening and Condra get blackmailed by management with threats of spreading “rumours” about them.
    You guys are entitled to your opinions, although they’re never backed by (correct) facts. You’re just lucky that there’s a dysfunctional site that lets you air them.

  19. Bobby Goodman says:

    Dennis, I offer my opinions only and try to engage in a discussion with others. When I point something out (always qualifying it as my opinion only) and ask a question, it’s ignored. Which is too bad.

    I have always said Karly is “extremely talented” but have itemized what I don’t like about his game. Just my opinion only! You and others like you, make a conscious decision to ignore facts (like his vanishing act in tough games and last year in the post season). You, will celebrate the management team who aside from the coach never laced up a pair of skates in the NHL (unlike the 29 other NHL teams). Like Mikey, you are a wonderfully loyal Sens fans and I think it is fabulous. While you accept, I will question. Perhaps you will have the courage to tell me how you think Zibby and Sly will perform in the games left? Why no one wants to respond totally confuses me. I will suggest that Zibby will score, perhaps 5 and Sly 7. If they do this, will it meet with your approval?

    Pierre and I have often had different opinions but because on one ocassion I called him TVOR you are offended. Kevin and I have disagreed on isues as have Dave and I! They too have been TVOR.

    I minimized Karlsson injury? How? I said it was tragic and probably denied him as many as 3 awards! I did ask the question however, why he doesn’t show up for tough games. He had only 3 shots, gave the puck away 3 times, didn’t lead a single rush in Winnipeg, why? The folks doing the game commented, they too must have something against Karly. In Pittsburgh, he had but one shot in 16 minutes of play. He only carried the puck on the PP when he wouldn’t be pressured. Why? He had but one point and was minus 4 in 7 games in the post season last year versus NY who played him tough; why? I prefer defencemen who will skate with the puck, pass, make plays, shoot and score goals but will also go into corners, hit the oposition and block shots. You know…do what defencemen do. But rovers/4th forwards do not. That’s just me.

    I really want you to answer my questions!!!! Please point out where I am inventing stories that are not factual for God sakes! I make many mistakes mon ami.

    Do you like how Greening is playing, Zibby and Sly (3 g in 23 games collectively). Did you endorse re-signing Daugavins and playing him in 7 games? Was Lundin a great acquisition and what about Lee for Gilroy? Playing, signing and then buying out Butler was good? Would you rather have a 23 year old Turris or the 20 year old Tarasenko passed over for Rundlbad? Zibanejad hasn’t done anything in the last few years but was selected over the Canadian Coutourier? Should he be playing in the NHL Dennis?

    I don’t want it to be the Bobby Blog. I hope I haven’t chased some away, if I have, I am sorry but I suspect those with 2 brain cells left because of the outrageously long wait to publish times; is that a ponsibility. Please point out where I may have inadvertently mislead with invention.

  20. Bobby Goodman says:

    It is interesting Kevin that no one has resonded to the Cyril Leader “master plan” to turn those who go to the Bank into lyal Sens fans only. I am a huge fan of having the Ottawa Senators here in Ottawa but I also respect the reality that familes here have been devoted to either the Leafs or the Habs for…well for ever and a gazillion years befoe the Sens returned. In my own family, I have a young nephew who is a loyal Bruins fan because his father loves them ans has from the time he was a kid. There have to be many families exactly the same. A sporting event used to be a place where one could shout and scream in support of their team with impunity. I will never endorse offensive behaviour but Leeders plan was something I might expect from an 17 year old kid (indeed amateurish and juvenile).

    Every time I go to a game there are hordes who mindlessly call out: Leafs Suck and the do it incessantly! If someone has a strong stomach and pain threshold, they can tune in the 1200 locally and listen to the crude name calling and never ending Leaf bashing! The same happens in the Sun. The rowdy Senator lemmings are simply following the “Leader”!

    I have a solution much better than the one introduced by Cyril, try putting a better product on the ice number one but much easier than that is toss those offensive crude and beligerent fans (regardless where their loyaltie may lie) out of the building!

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