Captain, my captain

- July 31st, 2012

Daniel Alfredsson is ready to return.
He has been working out and wants to come back.
That is good news for the Senators.
He was one of the club’s best players last season.
He feels he can be better next year.
Alfredsson has been working out in Sweden with Erik Karlsson.
He said he always felt he would return but wanted to workout first to make sure he was OK.
I am a little surprised he didn’t sign an extension.
It was certainly talked about and on the radar screen.
They can get one done during the season. I’m sure it can be agreed on pretty quickly if Alfredsson decides to play next year.
People in Ottawa are happy with this decision.
They should be pleased.
This is good news for the Senators.
One less hole to fill going into training camp.
Now we have to hope that training camp will start on time.
Hard to say if it will or not.

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22 comments

  1. ChokerHater says:

    Did his contract get renegotiated
    or is he playing for 1 million a year?

    Maybe no one asked
    journalism is all about asking the right questions
    No?

  2. OD99 says:

    I am sure you are the only one bright enough to ask that question Chokerlover…not to say it might not get renegotiated before the season starts but I am sure you will hear about that if and when it is actually news.

    You and Kevin have been so active on this site during the off season I am thinking it might be the year you both jump on the bandwagon…you certainly believe you know enough about the Sens to be hardcore fans.

    Can’t wait to see how the youngsters have developed…lots to happen still but having Alfie back stabilizes the forwards a bit.

  3. Is Alfredsson a God in Ottawa…he must be; there are 6 pictures and 7 stories about him today. The supersaturation begins.

  4. ChokerHater says:

    well, I read in “the other paper” that in fact he did not renegotiate his contract and will in fact play for 1 million dollars for the year. I find that refreshing, that he is actually going to honour his contract, but hard to believe in this day and age. We’ll see as things progress, because they also said he might sign an extension, that would change the money this year, then he could retire at the end of this year and effectively not honoured his contract. Whatever it is, as it stands now, he’s gone up a notch in my book

  5. Lee Donovan says:

    um, Bobby, that would be a resounding YES!!!

  6. PaV says:

    Bobby don’t tell me you are nota Alfie fan.. oh wait.. thats right… you are not. ;-)

    Alfie is great for the team, for Ottawa and the NHL…..

    OD99… buddy, don’t taunt the leaf fans, they are stariving for a post season bid… and as always, the parade is planned and the rings are on order this year.

  7. OD99 says:

    How quick can the Sens got a new season ticket drive going?!?!?

    It’s all a master plan by the puppet masters…

  8. OD99 says:

    From the wonderful article penned by Don Brennan:

    http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/07/31/alfie-does-what-yashin-wouldnt

    “Daniel Alfredsson always was a better, more honourable man than the captain he replaced.

    He proved it again Tuesday, shooting down speculation that he was insistent on a raise and extending his existing deal in announcing his decision to return for a 17th season in a Senators jersey.

    Alfredsson, the best player in franchise history, will accept just one million of owner Eugene Melnyk’s dollars in 2012-13, when (as of now) he’ll be the 12th highest-paid player on the team.

    Jason Spezza will make eight times more money next season. Chris Neil will get twice as much. Heck, even defenceman Mike Lundin, who was signed as a free agent last month and has played just 241 nondescript games in the NHL, will collect $150,000 more than Alfredsson.

    “It’s not something I’d like to change,” Alfredsson said from Sweden on a conference call with a number of NHL media members that was hosted by a moderator who had about the same kind of success rate (14.1) correctly pronouncing names as Ottawa’s No. 11 did scoring goals (27) on shots he took (191) last season.

    “I did talk to Bryan a couple of weeks ago about maybe doing an extension for another year. We discussed it back and forth. (But) I signed a four-year deal and if you look at the average … I think that’s the way you should look at it … even though it progressively gets lower and lower, I think you look at the average. Even though I make $1 million next year, I made up for it maybe the first year.

    “It’s a non-issue for me. I’m just happy I’ve come to this conclusion that I want to play again, and play at a high level.”

    Wow – just a good person willing to honor his contract and lead the team he loves. The crow can be prepared any way you like it Chokerlover but it probably tastes the same regardless.

  9. Mike8888 says:

    I find myself trying to buy season tickets, even though I don’t really want them.

  10. Again in Don’s article I read that Sly is penicilled in as the right winger on Spezza’s line. Am I the only one curious as to why? Is it wrong to ask the question “what happened to the kid who was going to be “Spezza’s right winger for the next 10 years”? Why is he persona non grata? What has he done…wrong? Why can’t I get an answer as to why he is never mentioned? Is it again a case of Murray pulling the strings as he did many times last year: Da Costa and Rundblad playing as many games as they did, Butler playing 56 games in the regular season and 4 in the post season. Stone playing in the post season. Sly playing in the post season; Hoffman and Peteresson limited to one game in the regular season and not a single game in the playoffs.

    Is it wrong to point out that the Gilroy trade was very poor (but many hear loved it)? It looks like it is now OK to suggest the team will lack toughness…perhaps the bloggers will now concede that as a reality. It is fine to let a “local” kid go who was extremely popular with the fans (and the lightweights on the team) because he wanted a few more bucks and 2 years but acquire Lundin and Methot and buy out Butler? As the skinniest team in the league from a managerment perspective and with one of the lowest payrolls, was Carkner a bad investment?

    Someone, anyone, please help me understand why Petersson is now never mentioned. Certainly someone else besided me wonders what is happening.

    Again at this time of year I ask the question what the Coach and GM expect from the players. What will Silfverberg do this year if he makes the team (and we all know it is not a matter of making the team or not…you are appointed to the team). Will he get 60 games to score 6 goals as Butler did? I have often said I don’t hate anyone, I only hate decisions that do not put the team in the best position to win hockey games. Butler, Rundlbad, Da Costa never put the team in the best position to win (nor do I suspect they were Maclean’s call). I certainly didn’t think that playing a 19 year old kid with some skating issues in a playoff game was a putting the team in the best position to win but, he did better than Silfverberg who replaced him the next game! Does anyone here truly believe they were Mac’s decisions?

    I hate silly bugger and it abounds on this team. Don, Bruce please share with us what you know about what is going on with Andree Peteresson. he may never amount to much but, he does deserve a chance having been Bingo’s second leading scorer behind another kid forgotten, Hoffman. If you forgot who he is, he is the guy that the General Manager Bryan Murray said was going to be Spezza’s right winger for the next ten (10) years!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. OD99 says:

    Please Bruce or Don…answer BobbyG…it is obvious how much agony he is in over this.

    I can answer the Gilroy trade question (again) from my perspective – it was a bad move and at the time I and others said it was strange that he would move Lee right when it seemed he became a legit NHLer. I can’t answer why Murray did it. It was a bad move on his part.

    We disagree on Stone being better than Sifverberg in the playoffs. The assist doesn’t mean he played better.

    As for the guys in Bingo – the big club was playing fine so not sure why they would bring someone up just for the sake of bringing them up. In Bingo those guys were getting top minutes and lots of PP time – some people think that helps with development more than playing 8 minutes on the 4th line in the NHL.

    We will see how the young guys do in camp – the summer should have seen them get stronger and hopefully quicker…until training camp (or at least the rookie camp) begins I won’t be able to give any more opinions on how they look but I am hoping for good progress.

    What did you think of my analysis of the Sens upcoming season? Would like to see your detailed thoughts (and you don’t have to write about all the things you hate decision wise, I am pretty sure I am clear on that) on how the team will do – where do you think they finish?

  12. As for the guys in Bingo – the big club was playing fine so not sure why they would bring someone up just for the sake of bringing them up

  13. Dave, you are an Emprie Loyalist and if that sustains you, great. You are told, therefor you believe; it is good for you and the Empire. Curiosity is not in your DNA (which is a shame because curiosity is the engine of knowledge – but in the Empire, knowledge is a dangerous thing). Your feeble effort to poke fun and mock me only serves to validate the theory that the power of accurate observation is considered cynicism by those who do not have it. Agony does’t quite capture all that I am feeling Dave. I am frustrated because I want more, I truly want the team to be better; you as an Empire Loyalist, are very happy with the status quo. I am also very confused (easy to do). Why do we not hear a word about the kid who was going to be Spezza’s right winger for the next 10 years? I get this question ignored for a very good reason, we are not to know. I am a “hater” because I want more and want better, many, including you, do not. If by decree a player is banished, it is must be the right the decision, right Dave? What does surprise me is your willingness to totally accept anything and everything. You suggest that the big club didn’t need anyone from Bingo…really Dave? Am I to assume that you were impressed with Da Oates-like Costa and his 3 goals and minus 9 in 22 games? At what point do you think the Coach (GM, really) decided that experiment wasn’t working? Do you think that Rund’sbad (who was acquired for a 1st round draft choce) and his 1g and minus 11 in 24 games qualifies as playing fine? At what point did Mac (Brian Murray, really) decide that wasn’t working? At what point do you think that the Senator brain trust decided Bulter who scored 6 goals in 60 games wasn’t exactly “fine”? The answer of couse is, only after the 2012 year was over and they bought him out of his one-way, 2 year, 2.4m contract. You loved em all Dave! All I wanted was to see what Petersson could have done given the same opportunity….is that heresy? To an Empire Loyalist, it must be. How dare I have the audacity to even question the Supreme Empirical Leader. Unlike you Dave, I thought that Petersson who scored 22g on a small ice surface playing professional hockey in North America might have done better than Butler, Da Costa or a 19 year old Junior with skating issues! I am sure the kid who was once the Supreme Leader’s darling could have done more that a kid who didn’t even want to test his metal against NHLers only months before in the preseason and as Pierre so accurately pointed out, starring in the SEL is no guarantee of success in the NHL! You endorsed Daisey, Obrien, Dog, Klink. You have endorsed every move made in the last 6 years! Like Gilroy, you now love Methot and Lundin! You accepted the notion that the team didn’t need brusers because they would always have possession of the puck. I look forward to seeing what a healthy Regin will do and I endorse the Latendresse deal, but this team is soft and will not make the post season.

  14. OD99 says:

    Bobby you got up on the wrong side of the bed didn’t you?

    I made one comment because you have asked the same question every day for a month with zero response from the writers. Now you fall back into attack mode (which is really too bad because yo had done so well and this is such a very ugly side of you) which is to say you tell someone how right you are and how wrong they are – you tell them what they think and believe (which oddly is always the opposite of what you believe) and then hold yourself up as the shining beacon of reason…because only you truly love the Sens and have the will power and insight to question everything and anything.

    Give it a rest Bobby, it is tired, old and most of all completely untrue. We go through this every once in a while but this one is hilarious – in the post right above yours I say how I felt at the time of the Gilroy trade and how it was a bad move yet here you are once again telling me what I believe and that I loved Gilroy. Do not ever read anything anyone writes?

    As for Petersson, I was talking about him and his skill,speed and shot before you ever heard of him – just because I believe that time in the AHL is good for him and that I would rather he come up and play top 6 minutes than languish on the 4th line doesn’t mean you have more insight or whatever it is you feel you have to be so high and mighty all the time.

    Never loved any of the guys you mention in fact and don’t love Methot or Lundin either. I will reserve judgment until I see them play – unlike your Kreskin like powers I don’t make decisions until I can see a player, you know, actually play in the league and for the Senators.

    I don’t really have time right now to go over all of your points but suffice it to say once again you are so off the mark on what I think it is shameful.

    One last thing is that why would anyone else bother to write negative comments? You have that covered (and of course your buddies Chokerlover, Troll) in spades since you complain about e-v-e-r-y-t-h-i-n-g.

    Keep up the complaining Bobby – I am sure Bruce and Don will write a book of your questions to ask the team so you can finally be satiated.

  15. Mike8888 says:

    Bobby,
    Isn’t that what you predicted last year? The Sen’s should be improved this year.

  16. OD99 says:

    Da Costa had 36 points in only 46 games – Petersson had 44 points in 60 games. I guess they should have called him up then.

    The previous year Butler had 22 goals in only 47 games and was MVP of the All-Star game…maybe they were going on pure stats when they kept him up with the big club.

    The list of AHL MVP’s reads much the same as the SEL’s does (as I will so rightfully point out, just like Pierre)…Spezza won it during the lock-out but other than that there isn’t much to choose from. A shout out to my friend Brad Smyth for winning it in ’95/’96…man was he good…what a sniper.

  17. I am sorry Dave. I didn’t like the agony thing (…and the Doctors have talked to me about that!).

    I am little confused though Dave; why did you support Butler, Rundblad and Da Costa for 60, 24 and 22 games respectfully and still think Petersson needs more time in Bingo? He did score 22 goals, more goals than Daisey, Condra, the Android Dog, Klink, Obrien and I can go on. Is it wrong for me to ask about Petersson; if Don can write an article suggesting the the team is putting far to much hope on Sly to produce why not suggest the Petersson could be the right (correct) winger on with Spezza. It is curious he is never mentioned.

    I am no beacon of reson; I simply want better and can’t understand why Carkner didn’t play the first game, why Butler played 4 games in the post season why Sly played one game and why a 19 year old played a game but not Petersson. Is this wrong? Why did Gilroy play…was that a good decisiona and why doesn’t anyone comment on the trade for him or the Buler contract. Instead of saying the 2.4m,2 year deal was bad, the GM is celerated for buying him out for 400k…go figure. Yep, I am negative but I like Spez, Milan, God, Turris, Android with Smith and Neil, Latendresse, the 3 goalies and the kids who all should spend, like Petersson, spend time in Bingo! I like Borowiechi, Hoffman and of course Petersson. Must I like all the bums to resurect myself from negative status? Should I celebrate the top brass of Murray, Murray, Lee and Dorion who have zero nhl playing experience? I look at the body of work done by the GM and I think it has been God awful.

    Anyway, again, I am sorry. I simply have questions year after year that I ask but know the will never be answered. Losing Carkner was really very silly and to answer Mikey’s question, this team is even softer that the one of last year and that is one of the reasons why they will miss the playoffs. Many are happy with being smack in the middle that gets even the most hapless of teams into the post season. Not me. Getting in the post season to be bounced early means diddlly squat to me. It is no measurement of success! With Kuba, Carkner, Foligno, Konopka all gone, this team will have to rely on the some of the ham and eggers and/or some kids. Can they allow as many goals scored as they have and continue to expect on the goaltending to win them games? Will the power play be effective? Who will protect the wee one who was invisible versus the NYR. We will see. I want more and explanations for very bad decsions and that is very bad.

  18. …and Da Costa got 22 games he bigs, why? It is fine to have him start with the Sens based on his fantastic number at Mirimac? I supose you endorsed that decision too? He is soft and a peripheral player and a far cry from Pertersson. But, like I have said, he got 22 games to prove what he had. Butler continued for 60 games to prove he was a bum. 60 games! If pure stats was so important, did 6 goals with 2 in one game impress the statistician? Rundlbad got 24 games based on he owning the SEL. Murtray traded a 1st round draft choice to get him and he stunk…so he moved him but Peteresson wasn’t afforded the same opportunity. Gilroy was bounced from 2 other NHL teams (and now a 3rd) but he got to play in the post season. Are you again endorsing the decsions made by the GM Dave. Whatever….I wont get the answers I seek because it cuts a little to close to the bone. As I have suggested often, I want the best for the team and decisions made by Murray (I suspect Mac too is often a puppet…he doest even get to pick his assisant coaches) have consistently made little sense to me. If we can read all the time about zibby and sly why is petersson (who was one of only 3 that starred in bingo last year, never evermentioned. Is that too much to ask?

  19. 85% of the NHL players come from the American Hockey League…there is no comparison between the two leagues! The SEL plays on a huge ice surface (which I like and believe it rewards great skaters with talent) but is very soft and comprosed mostly of youngsters. The AHL is far closer to how the game is played in the NHL!

  20. Mike8888 says:

    Bobby,
    I didn’t like the Lee trade either but I don’t write about it every day because it gets tiresome. GM’s make good and bad decisions. Show me a GM who hasn’t made both. As far as a team’s management team having to have playing experience, I don’t buy that at all. There are many examples of good and bad managers with and with out playing experience.

  21. OD99 says:

    Hey Bobby,

    I agree that the info on Petersson has been far too little and I don’t know why that is but other than Lehner (and Borocop whenever the dev camps are on) who else on Bingo is ever mentioned? I don’t think it is anything other than guys in Bingo don’t get much press here. I also think you put too much stock into the comments Murray had about Petersson when he was called up. I know they were wild – 10 years on Spezza’s wing – but maybe he meant in 10 years he can play on Spezza’s wing ;) Seriously I don’t know and I hope that Petersson represents himself well in TC but all of a sudden it seems there are going to be a good amount of forwards to compete for jobs so as a smaller player he is going to have to show something quick.

    As much as I like his potential I don’t agree that he should necessarily have been called up. I know you are well aware that scoring in the A means little when it comes to being able to score in the NHL so your comparisons to Greening, JOB, etc…can’t really be taken at face value. Like I said, my friend Brad Smyth was AHL MVP and scored 68 goals in 68 games when he was relatively young but couldn’t get a real shot at the NHL (or they didn’t think he moved well enough to play) so success anywhere outside of the NHL doesn’t mean squat except potential.

    There is also a big difference between being silent about a player and move and LOVING that player or move. In some instances I think the moves or players are of little consequence – like Winchester. I never really liked him but for a 4th line guy who can be good on the boards he was alright, not good, just alright. Now we have better players and I have no issue with him not getting an offer.

    As for the bums, that is personal choice. I am pleasantly shocked that JOB can even skate in the NHL yet alone look like he may be a serviceable 4th line centerman.

    I don’t get your cutting to the bone remark? I have no personal stake in the moves Murray makes and I don’t mind answering questions about players or my thoughts on the team at all. The issue is that to you my silence on any subject somehow turns into an endorsement and then the craziness begins.

    I think DaCosta made the team last year because the Senators didn’t have a #2 pivot and he showed enough vision and creativity to stick with the big club for a while. Once the team realized they did not have that area covered and Turris became available they decided to make the hard choice and trade Rundblad – once Turris was on the team Da Costa didn’t stand a chance to play.

    Bobby I brought up the stats because you seem to want to use them to support Petersson but then you don’t want to use them for arguments that oppose your view…it is circular and impossible for me to comment on because you pick and choose what suits your position.

    Bottom line to me is that the team is building towards a good future with young talent and while an optimist I believe the team is heading for…

  22. So I read another article about Zibby and how he is going to reside in North America. What’s silly bugger however is Timmy intimating the kid was mistreated in Sweden last year. I would suggest that the kid got less ice-time last year because he didn’t produce and not vice versa. Don’t you think the team wanted to be better? Did the team have a personaly grudge against Zibby (and the Senators)? If the team was a bad one (and it was, getting a demotion because of their futility last year) how bad was Zibby that he didn’t earn ice time on a very bad hockey club? Timmy’s comments are an obvious effort to rationalize Zibby’s poor play and only serve to prove how foolish the AGM really is. Again this year, young Timmy says Zibby has a legitimate chance to make the big club and he may. But based on his performance he certainly does not. But, Timmy was impressed with his play at a Team Sweden Junior Camp in Lake Placid! Really Timmy?

    When we are not reading about Zibby, we are reading about Silfverberg. The rest of the time we are reading articles reserved for God. There are no other stories to tell.

    Da Costa’s play at Mirimac College was enough to earn him 24 games in the NHL! Zibby’s 5 goals is a reason to celebrate but Petersson’s 23 goals in the AHL is not worthy. While Zibby will be living in Ottawa or Bingo, we know for a fact that Petersson will be living, somewhere! Zibby is a legitimate contender for a postion as a “winger on the 1st or second line” (preposterous) Petersson will be a winger for the next ten years playing with someone, somewhere, maybe!

    Dave, it is generally accepted that silence is an endorsement. How could I interpret it in any other way. When I was very vocal about bums like Daisey, I often had to defend my position. I have said for 4 years he would only play for Ottawa (for no other team would want him). He was made a millionaire because Murray saw it fit to reward him with a one-way for 2 years and then re-sign him for another one-way for 2 more years. Obrien was rewarded with a one-way and I get exhausted just watching him skate. But, I was the only one critical of his promotion. I never read a lot of posts about Klink and the Dog but I wrote about them. I didn’t get any support when I suggested the Gilory trade was a bad one! But I don’t care if some fool calls me a “hater”, as I have said often I don’t hate anyone, only decisions that are made that do not put the team in a stronger position to win games and entertain me. Players like Smith, Richardson, Lapointe, Mr. Hillary Duff, Bell, Robitaille, Leclaire, Kovalev, Kuba, Gonchar, Sutton, Stillman, Cullen, Commodore, Dog, Klink, Da Costa, Daisey the Air Rifle, Rundblad, Obrien, Gilroy and many others did not entertain nor did they help the hockey club! Murray has been awful IMO.

    Does the future really look bright Dave? What do you expect from Sly and Zib and others this year, the next and the one after? Like you, I am hopeful but…

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