How embarrassing!

- December 3rd, 2010

It was supposed to be a big night at the Bank.
Return of the villain Dany Heatley.
The home team skates out onto the ice, gives a heroic effort and comes away with the two points. It didn’t happen.
Not even close.
The time has come for change with the Senators. Something has to happen. Calling up Bobby Butler isn’t the answer, but it’s likely going to happen before the Senators play the Sabres Saturday because something has to give.
You wonder what’s going on here.
The list of underachievers is long.
The worst offenders are Peter Regin and Nick Foligno. Both are being given the ice time to have success and neither is producing. They have one lousy goal each. Regin is playing on the first line.
Coach Cory Clouston has suddenly emerged on the hotseat. It’s only natural. He’s in the last year of his contract. The team is not performing up to snuff and he needs to get this turned around.
The question is being asked around the league: Are the players buying what he’s selling? Hard to tell with this group because they’ve been through their share of coaches since Bryan Murray left the bench after a trip to the Stanley Cup finals in 2007.
I know you’re all going to sit here and say Murray is the architect of this. Well, this team should be better than it is. They’ve got way too many guys not getting the job done.
That has to change. It has to change now. That act Thursday night was embarrassing and ugly. The fact the place wasn’t sold out was even more embarrassing.
Senators owner Eugene Melnyk is a bottom-line guy. He has to make the second round of the playoffs to make money. He spends to the cap because he expects to have success. What’s happening here isn’t accepted.
He backed his GM and coach last Saturday.
There has to be personnel changes then. I know where I’d start if I was making a trade.
What are your thoughts?

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42 comments

  1. ChokerHater says:

    How can you look in the mirror in the morning
    does he have pictures of you or something
    Murray is the guy that brought these guys here
    Kovalev- 5 mil a year and plays every sixth game
    Karlsson- way too small and Murray’s trying to sell you that he’ll be an offensive defenceman
    well he better be, because he can’t play in his own end
    Bobby Butler????- that’s like saying Kadri is the new Leaf saviour,
    Foligno instead of Heatly
    Old Alfie playing 28 minutes a game????
    Where is Chara
    5 mil a year for Gonchar, “oh but he’s going to make our defense offensive”????
    last night 4 for them, 0 for the Chokers- where was the offence from the defence
    you lay blame on the coach???
    he coaches what Murray gives him
    the only reason they are at the cap, is because he overspent by double on free agents, oh and they are paying Cheechoo to hunt and fish year round
    Are you two afraid of Murray?????

  2. bruce.garrioch says:

    Pretty rich criticism from a guy who is afraid to post under his real name eh. Kevin F. always uses his own name. That’s why I respect his opinion.

  3. ChokerHater says:

    what the heck does a real name have to do with it
    I didn’t use bad language, just stated some facts and observations.
    I didn’t even make up rumours LOL
    Come on Bruce, lighten up.
    do you disagree?
    are you saying that Kovalev and Gonchar are worth 10 mil a year
    would you have signed them for that much?
    Are you saying Karlsson is playing well, in either end?
    would a Montreal or Toronto writer be so soft on the home team?
    just wondering
    would my real name make you feel better
    Do you really think this is Clouston’s fault, or Murray’s?

    Dany Heatly

  4. tuna99 says:

    Bruce, Murray is great with the media and scrambling and getting people fired (Muckler), don;t fall for his wit this time So if Muckler could go for getting us to a Cup final, how can Murray stay when this team has been nothing but a disaster since he took over??

    Murray might not be the biggest part of the problem, but what has he shown the fans that he has the answers? If Murray didnlt draft Erik Karlsson he’d have nothing, he’s been hanging his hat on EK since the day he drafted him. Look on the ice, Kovalev, Gonchar, Leclaire, Carkner, – this team on the ice is old, soft, fragile and plays without passion, may be the coach, but on I’m blaming this one on Murray.

  5. tuna99 says:

    The player I’d start wit is Chris Phillips. Thi team needs a culture change and I hate to say it, but we gotta ask a lot of questions about #4 when he isn’t along side Chara or Volchenkov. Nice guy, maybe to nice.

    I vote for full rebuild.

    1. Chris Phillips
    2. Filib Kuba (who cares about Kuba)
    3. Leclaire
    4. Spezza (it just is a round piece in a square hole, kinda like Gretzky in St Louis minus the Gretzky and St Louis part)
    5. Kelly (Jim Obrein needs a job)
    6. Michalek

    I’d keep
    1. Alfie
    2. Fisher
    3. Karlsson
    4. Regin
    5. Foligno
    6. Elliot
    7. Neil

    Everybody else can go…

  6. Chris says:

    lol… Really Bruce. You’re coming on hear saying somone is a coward because he doesn’t use his real name?
    What does putting a name on here have anything to do with leaving coments? Have you checked to see if everyone
    that puts a name here is using their real name. I don’t get your point. You think he would be afraid to use his real name and post his opinion becasue of why?

  7. Mike8888 says:

    Hey Choker,
    You may want to get some of your facts straight. Chara was Muckler’s blunder, and Cheechoo is actually back in the Shark’s organization playing with their farm team.

  8. Ron says:

    RE: Attendance… it’s really pretty simple. Put a good product on the ice and the fans will come.

    I was at the game last night and even though the team played progressively worse throughout the game, I had a great time. There is nothing like booing somebody the whole game to really make my day.

    Can we have someone bring Yashin back into the league and trade him to each team we play for the rest of the year?

  9. kinburnsen says:

    Murray absolutely should take some of the blame. He signed Lee, Kovalev, Kuba and Gonchar. Who do we ship out in a trade Bruce? Our #1 center has six goals and should have been shipped out last summer to begin the rebuild. We can’t trade away our youth because that would just be dumb. Any trade made now will be a panicked move in an ill fated attempt to save the season. Tell the fans we’re rebuilding already and get it done. Clouston looks lost right now.

  10. ChokerHater says:

    “Hey Choker,
    You may want to get some of your facts straight. Chara was Muckler’s blunder, and Cheechoo is actually back in the Shark’s organization playing with their farm team.”
    Fair enought, but the point was the Chokers are still paing Cheechoo millions just to go away.
    Same with Lee, just under a million, not to play
    Same with three coaches
    and 10 mil for 2 Russians, one plays jusyok most games, the other plays well, every sixth!
    what is five mil a year worth, in terms of effort
    should this make you a leader on a team?

    Thanks for the backing Chris, looks like Bruce just hits and runs ;)

  11. tuna99 says:

    Ron,

    Yeah going to a game to boo another player is really worth $100, especially when the home team let’s him dance all over the ice.

    The Sens did their part, it was a night to come out and boo, and they really took it to heart on Dec 2.

    It pisses me off Phillips was laughing with Heatley before the game, #4 is way to comfortable here in Ottawa, he just doesn’t really give a rats ass. You’d never see Mike Richards, Sidney Crosby or Jarome Iginla hamming up before a game with public enemy #1 if his team had gone 3-7 and was out of the playoffs and the fans were getting the taste of blood in their mouths.

    Time for a Culture change.

  12. Mike8888 says:

    The Sens should get rid of Kovalev, Fisher, Kelly, Winchester, Phillips, Kuba, and Leclaire. They should try to obtain as many draft picks and young players they can with these players and begin the rebuild.

  13. Mike8888 says:

    I agree Tuna. Hearing about Heatley and Philips before the game was sickening. Also, why didn’t anyone on the Sens take a run at Heatley last night? Unless they did it in the 3rd period and I missed it after I changed the channel.

  14. Mike8888 says:

    Hey Bruce,
    Who would you trade and who would you keep?

  15. ChokerHater says:

    Guys, changes are not easy to make, in players anyway, in the modern day NHL with the salary cap.
    Just about every team is up against the cap so any changes require you to take back as much salary cap as you get rid of.
    What you have to do is use your cap to sign good players, not old shags like Gonchar and Kovalev

  16. Dennis_w says:

    ChokerHater,

    Once again, do you not see the irony in supporting the sharks and calling the sens chokers? Good job beating a team lacking talent, going nowhere and needing a rebuild, in early December o less. That mirror needs to be passed around.

  17. Mike Hirsch says:

    My biggest gripe last night was the lack of physical play. If players arent scoring, they should at least be hitting. Ottawa did neither last night. I haven’t seen Kuba as a gamebreaker, and he may be the softest guy in the league, so in my mind, he can be removed from the roster. I feel like we *should* be good enough to make the playoffs. We need to punish the other teams, and force turnovers. I definitely could see Butler/Locke on a line together in Ottawa pretty soon. Perhaps in place of Shannon & Regin. (Neither Locke nor Butler are as big and physical as Foligno, so I wouldn’t sit him).

    Michalek-Spezza-Kovalev
    Foligno-Fisher-Alfredsson
    Locke-Winchester-Butler
    Ruutu-Kelly-Neal

  18. TheRealChris says:

    Murrary and Clouston deserve a measure of blame, but dumping either doesn’t solve the root problem: the team is old, slow, lacks scoring and defence and, critically, there is nothing in the pipeline to overcome even one of those weaknesses.

    Trading these days with the CBA and cap is nearly impossible because few teams have cap room One ends up trading cap hits rather than on-ice skill. Teams like Chicago have demonstrated that in a cap-bound environment, you have to build with a few great young players. Fans need to accept that the team’s problems are not going to be solved in one or even two seasons.

    Scouting is first. Don’t know how the Sens junior and European scouting is ranked, but it’s certainly not good enough. Build the best world-wide scouting team. Spend serous bucks, if necessary,

    Second, gotta clear up some significant cap room. Spezza now appears to be a chronic under-performer and is an obvious candidate. But, a trade outcome will yield little due to the toxic combination of his cap hit and poor results. Likely stuck with him. Kovy, Gonchar, both should be released at the end of the season.

    I’ll be bold and treasonous: Alfie is the key. He’s fairly priced and highly respected around the league. Because of his age, you’ll never get equivalent immediate value for him. But, if he agreed to go to the right team, then serious draft choices might be available. I’d love it for Alfie to finish a marvelous career here, but he’s all we have the is of serious trade value.

    Failing that, then the team probably should encourage Alfie to retire. With the cap room, some UFA shopping might be possible. Either is a abhorrent way to treat the soul of this team, but necessary if you want improvement in the next few years. Otherwise, you’ve got to wait until Alfie retires in 2 years.

    Whatever way we go, the team is going to have to get worse before it gets better.

  19. ChokerHater says:

    Cory Locke was a heck of a scorer in junior and has scored in every league he’s been in, he is small but a small guy can get along in the NHL as a forward, but he’s never been given a chance.

  20. Jay says:

    It’s an extremely difficult situation Murray is faced with. Everybody whines about being screwed in the Heatley deal, but they’re screaming for trades now. Do you really think you’re going to win whatever trade Murray makes in the next couple of weeks? Wake up! it’s not going to happen. He’s not dealing from a position of strength.

    The Sens would be better off waiting to the deadline. Let’s face it, this team is not a cup contender and will not good enough to make it the “Melnyk’s Break-even point”, so why make a trade you know you’re going to lose. Suck it up, wait for the deadline and try to move as many contracts as you can. They have some pieces that will garner attention at the deadline from playoff contenders (Campoli, Phillips, Ruutu, and possibly even Kovalev {by one of Pitt, MTL, NYR}).

    Hang in there folks.

  21. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    I’m not getting into the “using your name” thing, that’s up to Bruce to enforce on his blog.

    Absolutely, the blame has to end with Murray.

    He had a group of puck-movers and turned them into Jason Smith, Mike Commodore, SErgei Gonchar, Alex Picard, etc. etc.
    He had a young team and went old.
    He had a coach with a pulse on the team (himself) and hired three “Yes-men” in Paddock, Hartsburg, Clouston.
    He overpaid with retirement deals guys that had no desire to be here…Kuba, Gonchar, Kovalev.
    He washed his dirty laundry in public, using you guys to create a “Two Minutes Hate” scenario ala Emmanuel Goldstein in Orwell’s 1984.

    We were too soft after Anaheim so we got slower and grittier.
    WE needed puck-movers so we got rid of Anton and Andy.
    We needed star power so we got rid of Heatley and brought in Kovalev.
    We needed to buff up the farm so we traded picks and youth for old geezers and FAs that left.

    Now we ask why Alfredsson isn’t on a point a game pace.
    We ask why Spezza isn’t happy, why he isnt’ scoring 30 and posting 90 point seasons.
    We ask why Gonchar isn’t producing when he’s on his off-D position.
    We ask why we aren’t scoring goals when our forwards are brutal.

    All this is on Murray, but that’s not what Bruce, Don, Mike Eastwood, Scott MacArthur, Jason York, Steve Lloyd, John Rodenburg, Steve Warne et al. want to hear.

    So I, a mere scrub with no media connections and no “in” with the org will give you the solution.
    Listen well:

    Murray will fire Clouston.
    He will go behind the bench one last time to salvage this season.
    He will trade Kovalev, Regin, Foligno, a 1st in 2011, a 2nd in 2011 for Iginla and a Dman.

    The team will make the playoffs in 7th place.
    Alexander Ovechkin will feast on this team’s old carcass like a rabid, slavering hyena.
    You will write how the fanbase is overjoyed that the team showed character and guts, overcoming adversity after a hard start.

    Murray will get a five-year deal.
    Some relative of Murray’s will get a coaching job.

    We’ll make our playoff predictions…

    And so it goes…and so it goes…

    “Accountability.”

    Anyone remember that word?
    Cos it’s not used with the core, Murray or Melnyk, that’s for sure.

  22. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Also, Bruce…on the place being somewhat vacant.

    I logged into CapitalTickets from work at 2:30 pm.

    Two tickets available, 180$ apiece.
    I went home, got into my wool hockey pattern jammies, plopped my ass in front of the TV and watched TSN.

    I’ll use the $180 to pay my Visa and phone bill, I’ll maybe buy a present or two for my parents, friends and loved ones.

    The Ottawa Senators are not worth the price of the ticket.
    Don’t be puzzled by empty seats, be glad that Black Jack Heatley sold 3,000 tickets…because if that was the Florida Panthers, 14,000 would be in attendance.

  23. ChokerHater says:

    Very good writing Pierre D
    some very hard to swallow truths in what you say
    next week when the firing begins, Bruce can cut and paste

  24. Jay says:

    Is anybody else tired of hearing those post practice voice clips of Clouston saying “We had a real good practice today”?

    Really?? With the play of late it begs the question, “Were you practicing hockey?”

    Bruce, maybe you can answer this for me, what part of the game does Greg Carvel coach? This guy has been the only constant on the Sens coaching staff since BM came in. What does he do that is so spectacular that he’s avoided the axe 3 times?

    I’m not suggesting that firing the coaching staff will make a difference at this point in the season, but maybe the Sens should consider their options at the end of the season. Kirk Muller?

  25. Mark M says:

    Afternoon everyone

    Interesting comments from all participates. I was not surprised when Hockey News predicted that Ottawa would finish tenth. I am a huge Sens fan but I am realistic. I dont think we have the necessary talent to move forward. I think our farm team is developing nicely thanks to Murray, much better than what Muckler did.

    I think Murray has to take some of the blame for the big club here as does Clouston. But for once these players have too as well. The core has to be moved, whether it is Philips, Fisher, Spezza, Kelley and yes maybe even Alfredsson or all of them. We need goaltending until Lehner come into his own. We can not rush this kid. Defence is horrible. Gonchar can be moved at the deadline. Keep Carkner as we need his fists. Our forwards do not put an honest effort every night. Trade Fisher to Nashville (that is where he going to end up anyway) and we could probably get some new youth back.

    Keep up the great comments everyone (whether or not you use your real name).

  26. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Blowing up the core might actually be the best thing for this team.

    Think of it this way, what are these team’s identities?

    Washington Capitals: Attack-oriented under Ovechkin
    Pittsburgh Penguins: Defensively responsible, quick attack turnaround, Crosby
    Boston: Work, work, work, grind, grind, grind, Chara
    Rangers: Finesse-y team with some sandpaper from Avery and company
    Islanders: Tavares and young guns.
    Canadiens: Smasllish, speedy with good goaltending
    Thrashers: Young, brash, fast.

    Senators: ??? Used to be Pizza Line delivery, now it’s just…average? Alfredsson is the face of the franchise, so I guess you have a very hard-working two-way guy with…stuff? Are you afraid of playing Ottawa? Probably not.

    I would love this team to become feared again like we were when Chara was here, or even during the Pizza Lien days. Those days are long past but if the Senators progressively got some young, blue chip prospects that would just hit, grind, pass, score, hit, grind, pass, score…it might not be an oil painting but you gotta believe that 10-12 20-27 year-olds skating around and making their mark would make for some nice team bonding and a great team identity.

    “The Ottawa Senators, Don’t **** With Us.” “The Ottawa Senators, Bank Street Bullies.” “The Ottawa Senators, Young Cubs.”

    I mean, we’re not allowing 4-1 goal margins for no reason…our “D” is papertissue soft outside Carkner.
    Our forwards aren’t especially punishing, which WOULD be fine except that they aren’t really skilled or speedy either.

    I would really like Murray to start selling if this team lingers in the 10-12 spot…target some youngsters with some grit and meanness and a little skill thrown in, GET SKATERS. Skating is key! Get people with good accleration, side-turning, flow…so that the line together can keep pace.

    I dunno, just spitballing but I’ve seen all that I need to see from this bunch.
    At this point, why keep it together so that we get swept in round 1 this year or next year?
    Makes no sense.

  27. bruce.garrioch says:

    Hey guys: Ron gets an award for being the first Off the Posts poster to use his photo.

  28. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Another benefit of having young, skilled, fast guys is they make the vets have more fun…since the latter can get bored and tired, gives some extra energy. Just saying…

    Also, might not be a bad idea for Murray to give Clouston a few tips…

  29. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Bah. I’ll see if I can find a photo, if I can figure out how to link to my email.
    Turning into “Cosmo” over here, I swear!

  30. bruce.garrioch says:

    You don’t need a photo Visitor. Just funny to see it.

  31. Mike8888 says:

    Pierre,
    I agree. They definitely need an identity. Now how do we add a picture with our posts?

  32. Nancy D says:

    Ok, so Muckler was the 2nd worst GM in the history of the NHL (mad Mike on the Island gets the #1 honour). So Murray is slightly better than that….so he consistently gets a free pass? I really don’t see the logic. And if this is Murray’s last year….guess who replaces him…another Murray! So nothing will change. And as far as I can tell, we have two guys in Bingo who have a chance to be legit NHLers…hardly the restocking some of Murrays fans claim.

    I said this on Facebook and I’ll say it here: I wish we could just timewarp back to 1993. Yes, the Sens were brutal back then, and half the guys weren’t even legit NHLers, but they busted their buts every shift, every game. They were excited and happy to be in the NHL and did everything their talents and work ethic allowed to stay in the show for as long as possible. Every goal was a victory and every win was the stanley cup. Those young men worked hard and had the enthuasiam I WISH we could see today.

    That’s all I want….a team that works hard every shift for 60 minutes. If a better team wins, so be it, but you leave nothing on the ice.

    I am so sick and tired of this team carrying an average of 15 passengers every night. I am sick and tired of this team coming out strong, then folding the tent as soon as the opposition gets a goal or is awarded a shady powerplay. I am sick and tired of the lack of leadership on this team………why can’t someone out there scream and yell on the bench…show some emotion…kick a few butts…inspire the team? They act like they’re defeated and disinterested most nights.

    The worst part is…..I don’t see the philosophy or work ethic of this team changing. Not now, not in 5 years, not ever…

  33. Dennis_w says:

    Visitor,

    I have no problem with your passion and a lot of your ideas. The part that bugs me is when you say you’re no longer a fan or that you don’t care.

    IMO, a real fan sticks with his/her team through good and bad times. When you keep jumping off the bandwagon, you forfeit your right to criticize this team, and make this fanbase the laughingstock of Canada.

    I have lots to criticize about my team. But that’s because it want to improve it, not because I no longer care or stopped being a fan.

  34. BGoody says:

    It can get clouded Dennis but I think my friend V is a fan. Lets not interpret disgust with the play with disdain for the franchise. Some may say that the coach can’t score goals and although that is too stupid to even say, he can and should sit those who continue to not make an effort. He can take ice time away from someone. I saw Fisher interviewed yesterday and I don’t think the bad play (and his in particular) resonates at all. Philips has played three of his last for games without registering a single hit. Last game there were 3 defencemen who did not have a single hit. Fisher’s line gave the puck away 7 times and Fisher was guilty of 5 (BTW: Spezza had one but a giveaway is only a giveaway when Spezza does it and Philips again this year, leads the team). Karlsson continues to get lots of icetime and he was minus two last game. How many times will we see him chasing a forward back because he got caught out of position? He is shameless in his avoidance of the corners (especially in his own end) and he simply stands around most of the time. And then there is Kuba and Gonchar both are/were awful. Kovalev is an embarrassment and management should do what Gainey did in Montreal and send him away. As I tried to say earlier but got blocked, most coaches in the NHL played there or professional hockey and won championships as a coach. Clouston never did at any level. He had a .500 record in the AHL and and that was good enough for a promotion and he will finish with a sub .500 record in Ottawa. So I am with V and Nancy. I am disgusted. Everything here is second rate. The team doesn’t make the right decisions in the draft, trade, promotions, who stays or who gets sent down, who is put on waivers…and the favorites get icetime regardless. If and when Butler is brought up, where will he play? If he is on the line with that skilled playmaker Daisey the Air Rifle, he is better off staying in the AHL. Dennis, I care but if the team loses, not as much. It is hard and I will not cheer for the likes of Daisey, Kuba, Kovalev, Gonchar, Ruutu, Philips, Karlsson. I hear now that BM is looking for a defenceman. Didn’t we all talk about how the defence corps were all soft and offence centric (Lee and Wiercoch as well) and asked why they would go out an get Rundbland? There is no vision on this team and every move is reactionary. I am not proud of the franchise at this time; it has been reduced to a joke; the antics on Thursday by the fans was something I expect in NY not Ottawa; the coach might be a good kid but he is not an NHL coach (nor are his assistants); the GM and his family and friends are killing us. I want change and we fans deserve it.

  35. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Dennis,

    I’m just tired.
    Look, anyone that reads my posts knows there’s a lot of bluff and bluster to them.
    I wouldn’t be posting on this blog if I didn’t care and I wouldn’t be emailing the show after games if I didn’t care.

    I’m just…very frustrated and I find it hard to give money to this organization that doesn’t seem to have a direction at the moment, other than tweaking and fixing and hoping it works.

    I see a team torn apart from the inside, the players too loyal and too caring to speak up about it…and it kills me.
    I pretend I don’t care, I don’t answer the phone knowing it’s them…but deep down I just want them to have success and be classy like the old days. I realize this isn’t possible in a cap league, sadly.

    It’s not that I don’t care…I just don’t want us to become the Maple Leafs, where fans fill the rink no matter what and they get a mediocre product for it. :(

  36. Daniel Murphy says:

    Seriously folks, I think the time has come to openly admit that the Senators are not a good team. There is nobody on the team, including Alfie, who should be considered untouchable and both the GM and the entire coaching staff should be let go once the season is over if not sooner. It is time to start over from scratch.

    The only saving grace is that the East really only has a few good teams (Washington, Pitts) and the rest of the conference is made up of mediocre to poor teams. By default the Sens will always have a chance to make the playoffs and a flukey 8 game winning streak is all any team needs in the East to secure a playoff position.

    I hope the idiots who were throwing their Heatley jersies on the ice were tossing those cheap imitation sweaters and not the 150.00 dollar versions. I still find it amazing how the media still feigns ignorance about why Heatley wanted out. The rumours are out there and the last reason Heatley wanted out was a disagreement with the coach.

  37. Mike8888 says:

    Nancy,
    Two players in Bingo who have a chance to be “legit NHLers?” Get real, the farm system has never been better. You may want to put a little more thought into your posts.

  38. BobbyG says:

    Mikey, I have to agree with Nancy. Why all the optimism; who is shining in Bingo besides Locke who is a perenial star in the A but like many, cannot do it in the NHL and Butler. I saw Bingo play and I would add Smith and Wierchock to the list and that is it. So 3 in Bingo. Gryba is awful. I like and respect you Bruce but you put something in paper today that can ony be descirbed as silly and partisan. You suggest that Ottawa should get the edge over NYR in forwards but cannot score. Check out the numbers and the ages of the forwards. You wont find old men who cannot skate anymore and don’t care on the Ranger team and check out the 3rd and 4th lines. Their 3rd and 4th lines are a model for what they should be: young, big, tough, strong, can skate, intimidating and can score goals! No winchesters, Shannons, Folignos or Ruutu’s here. You give the NYR defencemen a nod in the game day comparison because they work together…you neglected to say they are young, big, talented and aggressive! No little scared munchkins here. No old and slow Kubas, Gonchars there, or passive Philips types. The Sens are one of the leagues worst penalty killers…what has happened? The coach that is what happened but it is all good because Clouston said he liked the structure last game against the dynamic Sabres (with 100 different line combinations I wonder what the hell he meant by sturcture). Bruce, you have Torts as a better coach on entertainment value alone; I am not a Tortarella fan at all but he can get players motivated. Examine all the statistics that Ottawa is on or near the bottom on…and answer that question again. I will be looking for that never to be defined structure in the game today.

  39. ChokerHater says:

    I see you guys had another great effort last night
    scary
    The Habs won again
    The Leafs won and made up ground with games in hand
    Imagine how your all going to feel when the Hated Leafs pass you in the standings.
    They are rebuilding, while your thinking your going to the Stanley ;)
    The Habs will probably go farther in the playoffs this year than last
    I LOVE HOCKEY

  40. ChokerHater says:

    been sensored????

  41. Nancy D says:

    Mike, the only guys currently in Bingo how have a chance of stepping foot in the NHL are: Weircioch, Butler, Smith and Lehtner.

    Out of those 4, only Lehtner and Weiricoch seem to be legit, full-time NHLers (as in, they’ll be in the bigs for more than a full season). Butler is tricky as those undrafted college guys tend to look good for thier rookie year, then fade badly.

    You’re dreaming if you think anyone else on that Bingo roster will have NHL careers that will last longer than 100 games.

  42. Mike8888 says:

    Well Nancy, reports are that O’Brien is playing the best down there at this time. But I guess guys like O’Brien, Gryba, and Greening should just give up the dream and quit right?

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