Presentation Day

- June 29th, 2012

The Senators are making their pitch to Justin Schultz today.
So are the Leafs.
Scuttlebutt is the Minnesota Wild have also been added to the shortlist of teams the Wisconsin Badgers defenceman is considering. That would bring the total of teams to six, including the Rangers, who reportedly had coach John Tortorella and defenceman Ryan McDonagh in on their meeting with Schultz.
Vancouver and Edmonton are the other two teams in the running for the point-producing blueliner.
Some people believe Vancouver has the inside track, as he’s from West Kelowna and there’s talk his parents have seasons tickets to Canucks games.
I think if the Senators get him, that will surely spell the end to Sergei Gonchar’s days in Ottawa. After July 1, when the more prominent free agents have been snapped up, somebody is going to feel a real need for a veteran defenceman like Gonchar, even if his best days are behind him and his salary is on the hefty side.
I think the Senators wish – and probably even their promise to Schultz – is that he will play on the 3-4 pairing, with either Chris Phillips or whatever veteran defenceman Bryan Murray is able to pick up via free agency/trade.
I’m guessing the coaching staff is going to give every opportunity for a Jared Cowen-Erik Karlsson pairing to click at training camp.

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12 comments

  1. ChokerHater says:

    see what a little bit of whining will get you
    With NYR, Minny and Toronto in the game, good luck, it’s just a professional courtesy
    so that Murray doesn’t look bad

  2. OD99 says:

    Well if the hype is even marginally deserved then I am hoping the Sens can pull this rabbit out of a hat. Forgetting for a moment that he may be a sublime talent just getting a young player that could potentially slot into the 2nd D pairing like this would be a huge bonus – especially for a team like the Senators that are focusing on youth and getting younger at most positions. Huge upside and fits perfectly into organizations plans.

    That said, I have some thoughts on the players the Senators actually have under contract after watching the scrimmage and sticking around for the town hall meeting and meet ‘n’ greet with the players.

    Ceci was one of the best players on the ice and he has tremendous poise walking the blueline and keeping the puck in the zone – made some nice passes, got off a few bombs and even had a really nice physical take out on Zibby.

    Prince looked strong on the puck and I didn’t realize he had such a quick release.

    Noessen was very noticeable and played with an edge – he did the “reverse hit” a number of times and rocked guys.

    Zibby seemed uninterested until Ceci knocked him on his butt then he played a little more

    Stone had a few good chances and his line with Pageau and Hoffman was by far the most dominant

    Hoffman had a nice goal on a good feed from Pageau after some solid board work by Stone – cut across the front of the net and waited for the 5 hole then slid it home – he also has one of the craziest mullets of the prospects

    Boro doesn’t need to be here but I suspect it is to show the youngsters how to compete hard because he is so far advanced it is dumb – I hope he makes the big squad

    if anyone has anyone else specifically they would like a comment on let me know

  3. Daniel Murphy says:

    Good blog OD. It is nice to read something that has substance. Do you think Zibby is ever going to amount to anything or is he just another over-hyped player who is not really good enough to play with the big boys?

  4. Dennis_w says:

    Didn’t know blog was still active. Doesn’t matter much either way. Going over comments, looks like one of the more perceptive comments was made by John Newman.

    Thanks for the rundown OD. I wanted to get out for some if the dev camp, but couldn’t make it this year. As far as Ceci goes, I just hope he ends up being better than Matta. As you could guess from my earlier posts, I could care less where players come from. Just their performance.

    Daniel,

    What kind of intelligent career defining comment can be made about a 18 year old prospect?

  5. Bobby Goodman says:

    My suspicion is Zibby will not be the hockey player the Murrays have so desperately promoted. It is always a mistake to set some one up for failure by setting expectations (for him and the fans) far too high (underpromise over deliver). They don’t learn; they did it with Winchester, Da Costa, Gryba, Wiercoch, Rundblad, Silfverberg, Zibby and others. I hate to say it again but I do not know why the papers keep telling eveyone about Zibby as a lock and he simply is not. It is not fair for the player to set expectations so high, nor is it good for the fans (underpromise and over deliver it is the easiest way to set someone up for success as opposed to failure). Silfverberg may make the big club but I do believe in the AHL route.

    I agree with Dave and Prince is very good. Boro deserves a chance on the Sens based on a, what I describe as, a very good year in the manures. Hoffman, like Petersson, has NHL level skills (skating, shooting, passing, vision). Both have patience with the puck and The Hoff was great on the point on the PP. It will be interesting to see if he can make the transition to the bigs.
    With Foligno gone, can we make a few assumptions? Someon else will patrol the right wing on the line with Turris. Is that spot a lock for one of the kids? With the acquisition of Latendresse (I like it because he can score goals, not the best skater but is very big and only for one year the team gets to see what he is capable of after fully recovering after a concussion) do we assume God is retiring? I think he is and if he hasn’t told the management team yet, he should let them either way. But Latendresse would be good on the left side with Turris. Methot is a big kid but he never showed me much. I don’t really understand the value of seeking out local talent; I know I don’t really care but perhaps some do. Methot is a big kid at 6-3 and 230 but he had 14 minutes in penalties and that speeks volumes (he can’t play that physical a game if he was only penalized 14 minutes).

    Can we make some assumptions based on what happened yesterday? If God hasn’t told the GM yet what he intends to do, he damn well should soon. My suspicion is he may have. Latendresse would look good on the left side with Turris and the one year contract is great to test his value and whether he has fully recovered from a severe concussion (I know the Doctors cleared him but has it affected his game?). With Foligno now gone, is one of the kids slotted there with Turris by default? I suspect so.

    I am not a big fan of Methot; indeed he is young (27) and big (6-3, 230) but he is yet another who plays a very soft game. He accumulated all of 14 minutes in penalties last year and that speaks volumes. Very physical players will amass many more. I also don’t get why the Murray’s are hung up on local content; as a fan, I don’t care at all! I wish Methot all the best but he will not be a guy who will protect Karlie. I think Montreal will be much better this year than last.

  6. Bobby Goodman says:

    I am sorry for the repetition the repetition; I would like to blame it on someone elso, or the ‘puter but it was me it was me it was me. I appologize I appologize I applogize…

  7. Daniel Murphy says:

    Dennis, I was simply asking a question about Zibby. As per Bobby’s comments and just about everybody else, it I have not heard anything positive about his play and his development so farf since we drafted him as a can’t miss top six forward. Many 18 year old’s are are given can’t miss intelligent comments about their play etc…and they live up to the expectations. I am just wondering if Zibby has what it takes or are we looking at another Filatov type player.

  8. OD99 says:

    Daniel,

    My own opinion of Zibby based on watching him live last year and then again at this camp is that he has all the physical tools to be a very effective NHL player. He is certainly big enough and has speed to burn plus I like that he has an edge to his game and isn’t afraid to engage physically.

    After Ceci knocked him on his butt all he did was run guys the rest of the night.

    That said, I don’t know that he will become a true #1 center and even as a #2 I think he will on the lower scoring side. He has a great shot but so far his offensive instincts don’t seem to be on the high end side. Obviously too early to tell but given his physical assets and shot he could become a pretty good goal scorer and I have a feeling he might just be a player who is better in the NHL than over seas because there will be more offensive opportunity.

    Another couple notes – Sdao (spelling?) is huge and more mobile than I expected…and Claesen was a total surprise to me – nobody got around him and he stopped every rush on his side of the ice…might be a sneaky good player down the line.

    Will be very interesting to see how these guys do at the rookie camp which will be a bit more intense and then of course the main camp.

    I will say one more time how impressed I was with Prince too – that kid has come a long way in a short amount of time and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a few games in the NHL this season and perhaps make the team next year – the Bingo team could be dramatically better this year is Lehner is better and the offensive guys pick it up a bit.

  9. Dennis_w says:

    Daniel,

    I can’t remember management saying “can’t miss top 6″ about Zibanejad. If they did, that was obviously wrong. Please don’t mistake media and fan evaluation to what the team is saying.

    That being said, Murray does tend to say things out loud that he should be keeping to himself.

  10. Daniel Murphy says:

    OD, thanks for your comments on Zibby. I am glad to hear to some positive comments. Right now I think Ottawa has way too many middle of the road (i.e. 3rd and 4th line) players. Hopefully one or two will rise to the top and become a bona fide top six forward with yearly stats to prove it. One more stud defenseman and one natural goal scorer or amazing play maker and the cup is ours.

  11. Bobby Goodman says:

    I am in total agreement with Davey…Zibby possesses all the attributes (size, speed, shot, skill) but we haven’t seen him use them effectively. I have seen many with the same skill level but it is no guarantee they will take it to the next level. I watched a kid named Ron Andruf own the AHL with the Vs in Halifax but couldn’t do it in the bigs. One of my favourite Juniors was Yvon Jolie and he too owned the AHL but couldn’t go further, Greg Joly was a can’t miss guy and man oh man was he talented but like the others, he failed in the NHL. Perhaps the GM should have selected a French Canadian Courtourier over Zibby (I know I would have). He played against the leagues very best night in and night out and still scored 14 goals (to Zibby’s 5 in the SEL). Perhaps Schultz would be playing in Ottawa now had the GM selected him when he had the opportunity.

    Has anybody got any word as to what and where Petersson is and how he is doing? He and Hoffman were the offensive stars in Bingo last year (small ice surface, hard hitting, North American hockey).

    I have to wonder to myself why there was a lock out at all; to see what the GMs are paying players (with the owners approval) is insane. I like Parise but is he worth what has been reported? I think not! I have said it often, if $1m was the maximum a player could make playing hockey (anywhere) they would gladly take it. For many, the alternative, a regular job like the rest of us, is far less appealing. The owners are their own worst enemies but they are hog tied…should they chatter amongst themselves, it is colusion. It is a damn shame because many real hockey fans get priced out of viewing a game live. Of course, this phonomena is not limited to hockey. We pay them gazillions and then we make them “heroes” and when their days are done, instead of them thanking the owners/fans, we are told to thank them…go figure?

  12. Daniel Murphy says:

    I fully agree with your comments Bobby. Parise is a decent player but the way the media and most people are going on about him, you would think he was Mario Lemieux in his prime. Most NHL players barely have high school education. If the max salary was a million dollars per year, you would see pretty well every NHL player gun-ho to play. Sadly, we would end up back when the old WHA tried to make a go it by offering outrageous salaries to our hard done NHL players like Bobby Hull, Wayne Carleton, Frank Mahovolich etc…etc…

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