Sayonara to the Gentle Giant

- June 5th, 2012

Bryan Murray says now that the Senators are not likely to re-sign Filip Kuba.
This is not surprising. This is not a ploy. This is a sound business decision.
Teammates would like to see the big defenceman return. He’s a popular guy, they say. He’s good for the power play, they insist. He has immensely helped Erik Karlsson become the player he became, we are told.
He can be replaced, I believe. For much less money.
In a non-cap world with all sorts of money to blow, they might offer Kuba similar money or even a raise on his $3.7 million salary to secure him before he tests the free agent market. But the reality is, that’s too much coin for a guy who is coming off a six goal season that was his highest total in four years with the team.
Especially for a guy that saw so much time with his team in man-advantage situations.
The plus-52 turnaround Kuba made from a disastrous 2010-11 was impressive, and while he does make some good plays in his own zone, I still say his best defensive move all season was to pass the puck to Karlsson and allow him to skate it to safety. Over and over and over again.
Others can perfect that art, for a much cheaper wage.
Murray said at the end of Ottawa’s playoffs that he wanted to acquire a veteran, defensive defenceman. He won’t have to pay $3.7 million to get one off the free agent market, and if a Bryan Allen does cost him anything close, well, Allen can also offer some toughness to the lineup.
Kuba, who will likely get his money from another team, has none of that.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: Chris Phillips could replace Kuba on the number one pairing, alongside Karlsson, and the Senators wouldn’t miss a beat. Whoever the team lands via trade or free agency might be placed without Sergei Gonchar, although I think Jared Cowen is a good fit there.
Who knows, maybe the time is now to put Cowen and Karlsson together for the first year of what should be a 15-year marriage, leaving Phillips and Gonchar as partners.
That leaves the yet-to-be-determined veteran to serve as a 5-6 guy, alongside one of rookies Patrick Wiercioch or Mark Borowiecki. And he shouldn’t be a guy that takes a $4 million bite out of your cap.
I’d also make sure Matt Carkner is brought back into the fold, either as the sixth or seventh back liner. But that’s another story.
Meanwhile, I’d be surprised if Kuba again reaches the 32-point total he did this season, when he was playing for a new contract.

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39 comments

  1. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Good riddance!
    Terrible contract and the no-trade made it insane.

    I hope you weren’t serious in that he taught Karlsson…how to move away from incoming forwards, how to throw the puck away when pressured, how to fall diving when hit…those aren’t great things to teach.

    I won’t miss him. Don’t sign a free agent. Replace itnernally. Be cheap. Cheap with the coach, cheap with the players.
    Until they win in the playoffs this managemnt should not spend ONE red cent more than necessary on anyone in this roster.

    Thanks for writing.

  2. Mike8888 says:

    I believe the Sen’s should resign Carkner and Konopka. They’re both character guys who don’t complain about lack of ice time and make the Sen’s harder to play against. Especially in the playoffs.

  3. ChokerHater says:

    Carkner and Konopka hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    maybe you should become an advisor

  4. OD99 says:

    So Pierre you are saying that the Senators management shouldn’t do anything to make the team better until they get better and advance in the play-offs? Seems odd to me but then again you have been quite honest about your creaky wallet in the past.

  5. ChokerHater says:

    I don’t think Kuba’s 32 points has anything to do with his coming contract negotiations, that’s like patting him on the back for getting the points, but kicking him in the rear for getting them at the same time. He got the points only because he was playing with the little boy on the other side. Fact of the matter is, he had to cover for Karlson all year, and did a heck of a job of it. He wasn’t here to get points, he’ll be the first to tell you, he was here to keep the puck out of his own net, and did just that.
    He’ll be gone, and there will be a shuffle, and Phillips will get saddled with Karlson and it’ll be his responsibility to keep the puck out of his own net while Karlson is karpetbagging down at the other end or dodging hits in his own end, and the Senators will miss Kuba very much, it’s not like they are squeezed by the cap, if they were, I could see it, but they are not
    If the Chokers end up 10 mil below the cap, do they lower their ticket prices?

  6. ChokerHater says:

    A guy from Ottawa dies and is sent to Hell.
    He had been a horrible man his entire life. The devil puts him to work breaking up rocks with a sledgehammer. To make it worse he cranks up the temperature and the humidity. After a couple of days, the devil checks in on his victim to see if he is suffering adequately. The devil is aghast as the Ottawan is happily swinging his hammer and whistling a happy tune.
    The devil walks up to him and says, “I don’t understand this. I’ve turned the heat way up, it’s humid, you’re crushing rocks; why are you so happy?”
    The Ottawan, with a big smile, looks at the devil and replies, “This is great! It reminds me of August in Ottawa. Hot, humid, a good place to work. It reminds me of home. This is fantastic!”
    The devil, extremely perplexed, walks away to ponder the Ottawan’s remarks. Then he decides to drop the temperature, send down a driving rain and torrential wind. Soon, Hell is a wet, muddy mess. Walking in mud up to his knees with dust blowing into his eyes, the Ottawan is happily slogging through the mud pushing a wheelbarrow full of crushed rocks.
    Again, the devil asks how he can be happy in such conditions.
    The Ottawan replies, “This is great! Just like April in Ottawa. It reminds me of working out in the yard with spring planting!”
    The devil is now completely baffled but more determined to make the Ottawan suffer. He makes the temperature plummet. Suddenly Hell is blanketed in snow and ice. Confident that this will surely make the Ottawan unhappy, the devil checks in on him. He is again aghast at what he sees. The Ottawan is dancing, singing, and twirling his sledgehammer as he cavorts in glee.
    “How can you be so happy? Don’t you know its 40 below zero!?” screams the devil.
    Jumping up and down the Ottawan throws a snowball at the devil and yells, “Hell’s frozen over!! This means the Senators won the Stanley Cup !!
    :)

  7. BGoody says:

    I think Carkner should be signed Mikey, but only if he can stay healthy. We all saw what he brought to the team when he dressed (no one manhandled Karlie when he laced em up). Konopka is a liability and a clown. I read that all may not be well in Camelot. It is rumoured Lord Burke has been dipping his pen into the company ink at MLSE. If the rumour is true (where there is smoke there is fire) it should not come as a surprise, afterall, he left his first wife and kids for a much younger woman and fathered more children. I will say this, you can bet that if there some truth to the story, the lady in question will be young and pretty…perhpas they too will get married and there will be more Burkies running around. I think he finally found his calling…sure he is a lousy GM, yes he is an arrogant, conceited fool, indeed he tries to intimidate the media into submission but he can propagate baby!

  8. Daniel Murphy says:

    I think Alfie should be released as well. He is an old man and is not part of the future. There is no point in keeping him around. I don’t care how nice of guy he is and that he is a huge pillar in our society, lets start re-building this team so that Stanley Cup expectations are high or at least there.

  9. Mike8888 says:

    I disagree Bobby. (I always disagree with Bob) Konopka has his faults but he helps the team, both with his leadership, and grit, especially in the playoffs.

  10. Dennis_w says:

    Daniel/Vistor,

     

    I’m with you on the youth movement. That’s the way you do a rebuild, like Edmonton.

    In addition to Alfie;  Spezza, Michalek, Phillips, Gonchar, Anderson and anyone else over 25 should be traded or released.

    Now are you guys willing to go in with me on season tickets for the next 3-5 years knowing that the team will probably finish near the bottom, like the good fans in Edmonton have done?

     

  11. OD99 says:

    Chokerlover you are getting sloppy – that joke has been around for ages although I must admit first time seeing it with the Sens as the team. Still, lame attempt.

    Alfie should be released?! That is the dumbest thing that I have ever seen written on here…even if anyone was as ignorant to think he shouldn’t be back on the team if he decides he wants to play they would at least understand that he is a valuable commodity and since he is under contract for another year he could be traded. Come on you haters (except of course Chokerlover – closet Senators fan) at least say something that isn’t just plain ridiculous when you take time out of your lives to come here and bash the Senators.

    60 points and 27 goals yet he should be released…hahaha…I can’t ever take anything you say to heart again.

  12. Daniel Murphy says:

    It didn’t take long for some Alfie lovers to jump at the bait that I suggest we dump him.

    For OD99, I only suggested dumping Alfie to get this blog site jumping with some sort of excitement or passion.
    Nevertheless, if I own a team and I am in a 3-5 year rebuilding stage to hopefully make a run for the cup, then the last thing I would want to do is keep old geezers around. They are not going to be any use to me a few years down the road when we go for the gold. Ergo, your opinion that keeping a 39 year old around while a team is trying to re-build is probably a bit more stupid than my suggestion to dump him.

  13. Kevin F. says:

    Look up a few comments to see the dumbest thing ever written here OD sleaziest too. What place this gossip porn has on a hockey blog is beyond me , I can laugh at the stupid nutty stuff but,,, aw well those who are silent tacitly support this garbage.

  14. BGoody says:

    Choke, that is lame as hell…really.

    Mikey, indeed Konopka has his faults…because he is an awful hockey player. He is going to be 30 years old with only 250 games in the NHL; there is a good reason for that. The team does not need another player to score 6 goals or less and in his case 3 goals and 2 assists in 55 games. Oh, he ammassed a minus 5 as well. He is slow, a yapper (damn I hate yappers), he picks his spots and often takes dumb penalties. Oh he tries hard, I give him that but I suspect if you were as honest and I think you are, before his participation in the post season you would have wanted him gone. There are always players of his ilk available with the advantage of youth and speed.

    It will be interesting next year. For all the chatter about rebuild, I like the goalies and Turris. We need to remind ouselves that Turris was the result of a failed experiment in Rundblad and as much as I love Turris, the jury is still out o him as a 2nd line center (I would love to see him on the right wing with Miloan and Rocco).

    Gryba is not an NHLer,neither is Wiercoch. Boro may be a 6th or 7th but he has some grit that I love. We will soon see how Silfverberg and Zibby do as well as Petersson and Hoffman. I am with you Dave and I am excited to see a healthy Regin in the lineup (he has skill and speed and play in the middle or on the outside).

    The team will have some troubles as the kids learn if they have it or not. The old defence will be slower and softer. Cowen needs to work on his quickness and in my opinion, use his size to punish and not just regiser a hit.

    Obrien, Dog, Daisey the Air Rifle (who will never play for any other team but Ottawa in the NHL because no other team would ever want him), Klink, Condra, Konopka are all expendable. Ottawa will need to have superior goaltending if they have any chance of making the post season and I suspect they will not.

  15. ChokerHater says:

    Sorry about that OD, I’ll look for a newer joke.
    Looks like the Kings took their foot off the gas
    now it’s a series

  16. BGoody says:

    Congratulations to the LA Kings for their Stanley Cup victory; it was very predictable however. I know Quick was celebrated but a good case could be made for the 21 year old Drew Doughty who had 16 points in 20 gams and plus 11! He logged the most icetime, he played in all situations and was both offensive and physical. This team with everyone back next year, will be a good bet to repeat. They are big, fast, tough, talented and have many Canadians – North Americans!

    So Jones, Hudler and Kelly will all stay with their respective teams (Colorado, Detroit and Boston); that too was predictable. Ottawa will not be in the running to get Parise but the usual suspects will be (Rangers, Leafs and perhaps Redwings and Sharks). As was predicted (again) Lundquist retired and frees up 6.5 million dollars.

    The hit on Scuderi had to be called. It certainly is wrong and it handicaps the attacking forward when the defenceman turned back but the hit regardless of the how and why is dangerous and has to be called. Perhaps in the future, the turnaback can be factored in when the punishment is meted out. 5 minutes for sure but maybe the penalty should not include the game. Jersey allowed 3 goals in the 5 minutes and that was terrible penalty killing. I will never understand the notion that a player needs to be severely hurt to justify the punishment (as was referenced frequently by Simpson last night and all year). The very same play can result in a broken nose, broken neck or no injury at all!

    I am glad it is finally over and want to thank our hosts for their efforts all year and the subscribers for their contributions. Take care all!

  17. Mike8888 says:

    Hey Bobby. Maybe the Sen’s will be in the running for Parise. They certainly have the cap room.

  18. Dennis_w says:

    Kevin,

    I’m not sure which specific comment you’re referring to since I don’t read all the comments, especially from some of the contributors.  But if you noticed an earlier post by me stating that some of this stuff is offensive and not hockey-related, you would know that I’ve never been silent on it.  But I also said that it is up to the blog administrators to set a standard.

    Rumour monguering has been a staple of this blog (by 2-3 contributors) since I came on here, and they don’t seem to see a problem with it. I’ve never seen you speak up unless its leaf-related, so you’ve also been silent.

    Daniel,

    If your ploy was to get the Alfie-lovers to respond and get the blog going, you succeeded in getting the one guy who contributes anyway (OD). I actually agreed with you.  Now how about going in with me on those season tickets should the sens agree with us? Fortunately for guys like you and Visitor, who would never spend a dime on a losing team, the sens won’t follow your advice since they know a full rebuild won’t work in this market.

     

  19. ChokerHater says:

    I must admit, I was getting a bit worried about NJD picking up more and more confidence, until that fool slammed him into the back boards from behind. Then the Kings said “thank you very much”
    That was without a doubt, one of the biggest braincramps I’ve ever seem. If I was his coach, he’d never be back on my team. Just a stupid stupid unnecessary play

  20. ChokerHater says:

    Oh, now we can get on with our summer

  21. OD99 says:

    Daniel the fact you don’t like Alfie or think he is too old for “your rebuild” doesn’t take away from the fact that releasing him would be dumb. There would be a bunch of teams willing to trade for him so if you were set on getting rid of him to help your rebuild wouldn’t it stand to reason that you would trade him to get some draft picks or young players back?

    In the bigger picture though I would think you would want someone like him around, even if it is just leading by example. By all accounts he has been one of the hardest workers on the team for his entire career, he forechecks well, he takes the body and he plays hard every shift. Do you not believe that young players should have some veteran examples?

    And while i know you don’t like most things about the Sens why is it in vogue all of a sudden to dislike Alfie? You guys talk about Alfie lovers and God like he has done something wrong or crossed the organization? He is 39 and almost scored 30 goals and several of the goals he did score were game winners…why such dislike for him. I am genuinely interested to know what HE has done (don’t talk to me about the media pumping him up or the crazy fan love for him – tell me what he has done or isn’t doing for the team on the ice to merit all of this).

    Bobby I don’t think we can say that Rundblad for Turris was the result of a failed experiment. I think it was a perfect storm and an opportunity that the Senators jumped on. Rundblad is young and has hardly any time in the NHL yet, you might have made up your mind on him but the jury is still out. The Senators had a few good young D but no #2 center – they made a trade to get a young pivot.

    I don’t think the D will be older and slower either, I think it will be younger and faster. Kuba is out and I don’t imagine Murray will be bringing in anyone 35+ to fill the holes if Carkner is gone as well. Boro and a younger FA would make the D quite a bit younger – that said I hope we keep Carkner as a 7th D, especially if his knee can hold up.

    Kings were very deserving champion and Doughty was unbelievable – glad he will be on Team Canada for many more years and Bobby although I never disputed this I will come out and say that Doughty is better than Karlsson as an overall D and I would rather have him and Erik. That doesn’t mean I believe Karlsson is a bum or useless or a scared kid though – I believe he is a star and potentially a superstar already and we are very lucky to have him but Doughty when on form is a beast.

  22. Dennis_w says:

    As far as the sens go, I don’t think they will make the playoffs next year because they just don’t have the enough prospects (yet) on defence to replace Kuba and Gonchar, who had great bounce back seasons.

    If the sens don’t make the playoffs, then maybe the rebuild can begin and Ottawa can grab someone second overall like Doughty was.

    I don’t have the Kreskin-like powers of others about prospects, but I’m hardly ready to write off young d-men like Rundblad and Wiercoch.

  23. Kevin F. says:

    Dennis that is simply not true I have repeatedly spoken up about gossipers of all stripes not just Leaf related, Redden, Heatley and all other targets of the guttersnipes, check the archives. This is not about hockey but common decency.

  24. BGoody says:

    I dont know who the Kreskins are here Dennis but unlike you, I love to hear different takes. I have often suggested the Sens did not need more soft, one dimensional, offensively minded defencemen. Damn this team has had their share and Murray seems to be obsessed: Bell, Pickard, Gonchar, Kuba, Karlsson, Gilroy, Campoli, Rundblad, Wiercoch, If you remember, the Murrays were promoting Rundblad and Wiercoch as starters and stars, Will they become NHLers, perhaps they will but I am not a fan of one dimensional soft defencemen. Both Wiercoch and Rundblad are disasters defencively in the minors.

    So the Sens should fail to get better huh Dennis. What the hell has the GM being doing for 6 years. I suspect you have no problem with the current management team and the big dollars spent on aging veterans: Kovalev (5m), Gonchar (5m), Kuba (4) and the home town discount for Philips (4m). Lets not forget about Leclaire (5.5m). You think the Sens will not make the post season next year but the management team are doing a fine job. I will ask you like I have asked everyone, what is acceptable after year 6 or year 7 or 8. I am a Sens hater because I want more. I did
    not like 5 head coaches in 5 years. I want individuals hired on merit unlike Tim Murray, Eli Wilson, Dave Camoron, Randy Lee, Clouston and the Mimes, I want decisions to be made that put the team in the best position to win hockey games. I want more Canadians (French and Anglo) and North Americans and it has nothing to do with bigotry.

    You predict that after 7 years at the helm, the Sens will miss the playoffs…I agree with you but the difference is, I think it is unacceptable and you do not. I did not like Murrays decision to make the team old, soft and slow. I will never understand why he offered Daisey a one-way contract. I am not a fan of undrafted NCAA hockey players. The Dog is here because he played for the owners Junior team. Obrien was Murrays first, first rounder. Condra and Greening were not his selections but he did sign Butler to a one-way for 1.3m and 2 years and he did sign Da Costa. He did trade Lee for another soft, one dimensional defenceman Gilroy. I wish nothing but success for the team I cheer for but nothing in the last 6 years has given me the confidence that it will get better. If there is to be a rebuild, I ask why and who is responsible…and then I ask who is best to champion the rebuild. I would suggest the rebuild start at the top (but that is just me and I enjoy everyones opinion).

    Davey, I can assure you that each year takes its toll (I know baby) in an accelerated manner and indeed Gonchar and Philips will be that much slower and that much softer (they were softies to begin with).

    Mikey, maybe Ottawa will pretend to be in the mix for Parise, but I would wager (beers) that he will never be a Sen. This team is in major austerity mode for the next few years and I suspect Parise would prefer to be with an immediate contender in the U.S.

  25. Daniel Murphy says:

    OD, you make some very valid points about Alfie. I don’t dislike him and I don’t worship the ground he walks on either. My point is if some team is ready to give up something of value to acquire Alfie, then Sens management should at least consider it. This inane rhetoric you hear all the time that Alfie is untouchable etc…etc…. simply makes no sense to me.

    Sadly, spending major dollars to attend a pro hockey game is way down on my bucket list and I am just an old senior citizen barely getting by on a meager pension.

  26. Dennis_w says:

    That’s just it Daniel. While you guys (including me) are calling for a rebuild, who exactly will attend the games during the painful years that it takes?
    At the start of the year, when it looked like Ottawa would bottom out and maybe get a stud like Doughty, all you haters were out in droves dumping all over the team, and none of you were even going to the games.
    With respect to Alfie, if the point is to look long-term, when at least last year’s picks are ready to maybe contribute, it shouldn’t just be Alfie that should be dealt. Logically, Spezza and Michalek should also be traded for picks and younger prospects, since they’re in their prime right now (with high values), but won’t be when the picks from last year (and this year and next year) mature.
    But that won’t happen because a rebuild is impossible in this market.
     

  27. Mike8888 says:

    With parity the way it is right now, it’s no longer necessary for long rebuilds. As long as you make the playoffs, you have a shot, as long as the team is on a bit of a roll.

  28. ChokerHater says:

    Wow, I see Kovy wants to come back to the NHL and he wants to come back to a team he played for before, his preference would be Montreal but if not Montreal, one of his other previous teams. That sounds almost like he’d come back to Ottawa and steal another 10 million from your team hehehe
    That’s really good of him, and maybe when he comes back he can apologize to Don and Bruce for telling everyone their secret beer hiding spot :huh:

  29. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Dennis, I disagree!

    Get rid of the old guys and replace them with YOUNG, TOUGH, HUNGRY guys and I will go.
    If I can go to a game not see Phillips, Gonchat but instead see Olli Maata, Borowiecki I will pay.
    If I can watch one where instead of Alfredsson we have Filip Forsbeg (won’t drop to 15th but..) or another young, hungry full of spit and vinegar type I will go.

    But right now? This team is mediocre. There are too many guys hanging on because they are comfortable and happy and it’s no-pressure. I do hope that Murray doesn’t give a golden parachute to Karlsson at age 21 and instead gives a three year deal WITHOUT a no-movement clause. Let Karlie know that points are nice but team play and team defense come first. That’s how you win. Anyone that will not get with that program should be driven to the airport and I’ll be glad to oblige them.

  30. ChokerHater says:

    Must be on summer holidays
    Hope you’re enjoying them guys

  31. OD99 says:

    Come on Don and Bruce….throw us a bone here!

    I know things are busy with the awards and now the draft but Karlsson got signed to a 7 year deal & won the Norris trophy….we need a new topic! Plus Alfie won a very nice award in the Clancy.

    Maybe a topic on who the Sens may draft?

  32. Bobby Goodman says:

    Davey, do we need Don a Bruce to introduce a topic for discussion? I am confident that you and anyone of us hear can introduce some thought provoking issues to muse about.

    I will begin by throwing a few potential items out there:

    - will Edmonton take Nail Yakupov (I say they will because by all acounts he is the rated number one but, Ruskies are always Riskie)

    - Will Ottawa get Nash (I will suggest the team will try and I would love to see him hear but I would bet he will want to go to a team he thinks is in a good position to win a Stanley Cup)

    - Will Alfredsson stay another year (I don’t think he will)

    - Who will be playing on the 4 lines for the Sens this year (Spezz , Michalek, Petersson; Turris, Foligno & Silfverberg/Zibby; Android, Smith & Neal; Obrien, Condra & ?)

    - How will the team do this year (I will guess 10th but who knows)

    - How will the team do in Bingo (better than last year … wow that was a stretch)

    - Who will they draft and will a deal be struck (I have no idea)

    - If a deal was to be done and it included a goaltender who should be the one to go (I lean to Lehner and that is based on our limited knowledge about his behavioural issues…from what I have read, he has an entitlement problem)

    There you go guys…I would love to discuss them with y’all. Oh, who would have bet that Simpson would win the US Open and…shouldn’t the Golf Channel and everyone of their employees including Brandelle Chumplee and Cry-boy Rymer for their obssession with Woods that week and every week. Like Webb Simpson, I am praying harder than I ever have in my life to win the Max tonight…do you think God is listening?

  33. Kevin F. says:

    TSN fact: Ceci had the most points of any Dman drafted so by Ottawa logic he is the best dman in the draft.

  34. John Newman says:

    Obviously none of the hockey management types who say Ottawa fans are knowledgeable has bothered to check out this blog.
    Release Alfie….I shouldn’t even dignify this with a response but here goes: next time actually watch the game, see the way Alfie manages (even at his age) to dictate the tempo; notice the way he doesn’t just dump the puck but actually looks around, delays and then makes something happen. Who else does that on this team? Two guys – Spezza and Karlsson, that’s it, that’s all. The longer Alfie is in the fold the greater the likelihood that one or more of our prospects learns how to dominate a game the way number 11 has for years. Oh, and if that isn’t enough, Alfie also managed to pop 27 goals last year playing on the second line with mostly inexperienced players.
    Anyone who knows anything about hockey is seriously wondering what the drop-off will be like when Alfie retires. Because unless they land someone like Nash to fill the void this team will have a really tough time making the playoffs again.

  35. Bobby Goodman says:

    Lord Burke trades Luke Schen for James van Riemsdyk because, as he suggests, the team needs a big, fast and talented forward. But could they afford to lose a very young, very phyical and very good back ender? I think not! The oft-injured van Riemsdyk doesn’t show up every night and plays a very soft game. He has been the recipient of criticism for his perimeter play. The Leafs had a big, strong and very fast kid in Victor Stallberg and he shows up every game but, Lord Burke traded him away and I am sure he, like Schen are very glad they are not in Toronto and the illness that is the ownership, Lord Burke (and his court) and Randy Carlyle. Any guesses where they end up this year? With the much ballyhooed “Monster” now gone, who will be their keeper?

    Ceci is a dandy hockey player and Ottawa netted at least one good hockey player in this year’s draft. As much as I prefer big, fast, talented and tough defencemen I do not mind this pick at all. I don’t really give a damn if he is from Ottawa or the region or not but with Kuba and Gilroy gone and Gonchar going, Ceci will be a great replacement and he brings the added dimension of speed. He was second only to the exceptional Doug Hamilton in the OHL (who will be in a Boston uni this year courtesy of Lord Burke) and he posses a unbelievable shot! I wish him all the very best of luck!

  36. Daniel Murphy says:

    To Mr. John Newman. I introduced the idea of ditching Alfie to stir the pot and get this sometimes boring blog site going. It rattled a few, including you. My job is done. I still think however if a team came to Murray with a very attractive offer for Alfie, I would take it. I still don’t understand this love affair everyone has with him and that he is God and untouchable, no matter what.

  37. OD99 says:

    Bobby I did’t write that very well – I wasn’t asking for a new topic, just a new thread. It is easier to manage multiple threads with different topics than one huge on with people all over the map. Still, some good thoughts.

    Kevin it looks like you are stating a fact and an opinion, correct? Ceci did have the most points – fact. You believe the Sens think that makes him the best D around – your opinion. I really like the kid you guys picked up…he seems to have a ton of upside and him with Gardiner should be a very nice upgrade for the Buds over the next few seasons.

    Welcome to the site John – you will notice a few people have pretty strong opinions about what is wrong with the Sens and sometimes it leads them to making some outlandish comments.

    I have seen Ceci for many years and am very happy for the Sens to have him – he has size, skill and speed. On the top end I expect him to be an offensive Chris Philips. Won’t drill guys too often but will get in the way and be sound defensively while being able to carry the puck out of the zone. He also has a bomb from the point as Bobby pointed out…an absolute rocket that will be nice to watch for hopefully many years.

  38. Kevin F. says:

    Just making a small point on the judging of defencemen based on stat lines David, there are so many other skills required to a complete dman that have nothing to do with offence.
    Don’t know much about Rielly don’t like to get caught up in hype til I personally see him play over a period of time. The reviews are strong but the experts are as wrong as often as they are right. Especially when it comes to 18 year olds. I have seen Ceci play live a lot and agree with your assessment, think he can use his size much more effectively which may come as he matures.
    On another note I haven’t listened to 1200 much if at all in a long time (just found out recently that fool Jerome got canned over the winter) but the last couple of days happened to catch Sean Simpson @ 8 am, very good, a expected Sens slant which is fine, but the courage to actually speak in a unbiased manner! What a breath of fresh air. Actually suggested that Alfies close relationship with Geno might be a problem Sacrilege! Crickets from Roddenberg and pals of course. Gotta wonder how long this kind of candor is going to tolerated, imagine he will a get a stern talking to soon. Yorkies is more the Sens front office type. As good as thie small sample sounds he might not be local for long. Is he a replacement for Genuis Pierre or just for the summer?

  39. Bobby Goodman says:

    Can you imagine…Sundin was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame and he never “brought the Cup” to Toronto! I guess he isn’t a winner like many of the other members of the HHoF who never tasted champaigne from Lord Stanely. He was well payed however, earning 9m annually for scoring 30 goals.

    Dave, Ceci should be much better than the “Big Rig”. The “Big Rig” gets in the way alright, in more ways than one and he is grossly over rated and grossly over paid (home town discount indeed). How a big 6-3, 220 lb defencemen from western Canada have but one fight in his entire 18 year NHL career is beyond me. I guess he never witnessed other teams taking the liberties with some of his team mates.

    You have to wonder if Daisey the Air Rifle has played his last game in the NHL. As I have said often, he will play for no other team but the Senators for the simple fact no other team would ever want him. Carkner should be signed but we don’t know the status of his ailing knees. Say sayonara to Konopka. It is time to play some kids who have legitimately earned an opportunity to see if they belong in the NHL.

    It is interesting that we continue to read that Lord Burke and Randy Carlyle are committed to defence and truculence first (truculence…just like Carlyle and Burke???). But, look at the hockey club, up front do you see a lot of toughness? As much as Kessel is very fast, hard shooting, very skilled and a goal scorer, he is very soft, the players have voted him the easiest player in the league to intimidate (that is up for debate) and he is not good in the dressing room. I would take Seguin straight up and to think that the Bruins also got Dougie Hamilton who at 6-4, over 200 lbs led the OHL in scoring for a defenceman, skates extremely well and plays the game very hard so favoured by Lord Burke and Randy Carlyle (what was the teams record since he took over from Wilson?). With Gardiner on the team already they go and draft another swift, skilled and soft defenceman. They may also get Schultz. The team traded a young hard hitting defenceman for a soft sub 20 goal scorer (who the team will promote as a the next coming much like the “Monster”) so they are left with the Polish Pylon and Phaneuf…now where is the toughness going to come from?

    I do not get the Hockey Order of Canada or the Order of Hockey Canada what ever it is. It is silly when you think that Howe has been living in the States since he was 17 and Gretzky sine he was in his mid 20s! Will Mr. Happy be the next one (Yzerman has been in the US since he was 19).

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