Shanny Speaks on WFAN

- April 16th, 2012

Daniel Alfredsson’s future is clouded at best.
While Senators defenceman Erik Karlsson told reporters Sunday the Ottawa captain will be a “game time” decision for Game 3 Monday night at Scotiabank Place, NHL VP of safety Brendan Shanahan revealed this morning nobody is sure how long the 39-year-old.
Shanahan confirmed Alfredsson has a concussion. He missed five games earlier this year after a hit to the head by Rangers winger Wojtek Wolski.
“Usually when I deal with an injury report from a team doctor, most of these guys say what Ottawa said to me was this could be one day, it could be one year. You just don’t know,” Shanahan told WFAN New York Monday morning.
“We’ve had that situation happen before where we thought something was one day and it ends up being one month. We’ve had situations where a guy thought he was really bad and ends up feeling good. I don’t pretend to be a doctor. It’s very clear, at the very least, he’s not faking. Otherwise, he would have come back and played on the power play in the last game and played the rest of an important game.
“Whether he’s back tonight or whether he’s back later in the week, we just don’t know. I made the call, at the very least, knowing that whether it’s serious or not serious _ we just don’t know with head injuries _ there was an injury.”
Shanahan said the injury was the reason Hagelin got a three-game suspension and defenceman Matt Carkner only one game for sucker punching Brian Boyle
“The biggest difference between the two plays is there’s the head injury and concussion on one and there’s no injury on the other,” said Shanahan.
Shanahan said Hagelin’s hit was intentional.
“I do think Carl Hagelin’s a good kid,” said Shanahan. “He looks right at Daniel Alfredsson, skates at him and elbows him right in the head. And Alfredsson has to leave a big game, an important game, and has a concussion and doesn’t come back.”

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12 comments

  1. Visitor - Pierre D. says:

    Who knows how he is?
    We heard diddly from the Senators; for all we know this could be one of those “grand entrances” that will go down in legend in this city. Karlsson said he was happy, smiling and that he was 50/50 to return to play today.
    I wish him all the best either way, but there is so much politicking in the playoffs you never know what’s right.

    I almost threw up my breakfast this morning when I read Spezza should be awarded the “C” in 11′s absence.
    Shouldn’t he actually show up in the playoffs first? He’s been invisible the entire series, being outworked by guys younger and making far less money than he does.

    I can see the dressing room now:

    “Jason what should be do?”
    “Nyuk nyuk I dunno, I’ve never won a big game, let’s play our game nyuk nyuk.”

    And then when the playoffs are done he bolts for Toronto for two months.
    In the words of John Tortorella: “Wonderful, just wonderful.”

  2. Mike8888 says:

    Pierre,
    You think that just maybe, the reason why Spezza has had a so-so first 2 games might be due to the Rangers keying on him with home ice advantage? Spezza has had an MVP type of season. Maybe some day, he can be perfect every game and can live up to your high standards. You and Bobby should be brothers. You both key on anything negative that you can possibly think of. Bobby hates all sports writers and broadcasters.

    You both love to criticize Karlsson, yet you both fail to bring up his outstanding game on Saturday. Maybe you’re both waiting for his next bad game.

    Bobby, re you criticizing Bruce and Don for not asking some of the questions you ask. Do you think for a minute that if sportswriters dwelled on and asked negative questions constantly that anyone would ever speak to them or give them responses that were even close to factual and honest?

  3. Bobby Goodman says:

    You have to wonder how/why Shanahan gets these plumb positions with the National Hockey League? His first Executive Position was in a “business development” role to expand its presence abroad. I could be wrong but he doesn’t look like a MBA grad to me. After one year of “demand creation” he is rewarded with the responsibility of protecting the players and dishing out punishment. In my opinion, he has been awful. Like his predessesor, he has been exposed for his inconsistency and favouritism. How can any player know what to expect if penalites for bad behaviour are all over the map? Yes you were going 50 kmh over the speed limit but you are driving a Lada and the other driver who got off, was driving a BMW…now do you understand? No I don’t Shanny! Another thing; I have never understood the notion that penalities are assessed based on the extent of the injury. Someone can swing a stick like Pujols swinging for the fences but miss a players head but the one who connected gets the penalty? Only when their blood does it matter? I thought it was all about intent! Shanny, I don’t know what you are doing but keep doing it because you are entrenched. Good for you…not so good for the league and the players.

    Pierre, are we going to go there? Did you not read about Rocco scoring 57 points in 58 post season games? I will agree with you that he was invisible, no, actually he was very visible the second game for his blunders. But, who was visible in the first game. If you look at the numbers, Spezza’s line was plus one but Praise Alfie, Turris and Foligno were minus 5. Was that visible or invisible? Was Praise Alfie’s team leading give-a-ways in the first game visible or invisible? Was Cowen’s minus 3 in game one visible or invisible. And, was Spezza’s pass to set up Alfredsson for a freebie, again visible or invisible and was he just padding his stats? I can understand after low these many years that you don’t like the man but you have to call a spade a shovel mon ami. I suspect you, like so many others, are disgusted by his nervous laugh. You are not alone Pierre, Lame-brain Baines feels the same way! In an earlier submission I posted the some of the good things Spezza did this year and many of stats were outstanding not only relative to what his team mates did, but more importantly relative to the players in the entire league (like points scored away from home). But, when you hate…I guess, you hate.

  4. PaV says:

    Bobby……………. i almost fell off my chair when you praised EK#65!

    Going to be a good one tonight… calling Sens, 3 to 1.

    PRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAISE AFLIE! lets hope he plays

  5. PaV says:

    Dennis_w – Saw your comment about Carks… Brought it up here to keep it under the most recent post…….I see what you are saying, but I do not think that Cark is that type of player. He sent a message that you touch one of our star players…. You are going to pay.

    Like I said, I was very proud how this team stood up for each other. Neil, Carks, Smtih, Condra and yes… Winchester.. they are not backing down. To be 100% honest, all the pundits said Ottawa could match Boston physically, but I didn’t know if they could. Ottawa has a history of being a push over – but what we saw on Saturday was a team that isn’t going to back down.

    The mesasge was loud and clear… we may not win the series, but we are not going to back down.

  6. Bobby Goodman says:

    Hate is a very strong word Mikey; I don’t hate too many people, but I hate what a lot of people do or don’t do. I don’t even know Bruce or Don but from what I hear, they are great guys (anyone who loves golf and hockey have to be great, don’t you think?). Do you think asking Maclean why Gilroy was in the lineup instead of Carkner for the first game would be risky? If it was risky, could it be because it wasn’t the best decision? Dwelling on something most certainly would antagonize a coach. But who said dwell? Do you or any fan in Ottawa know why Butler played 56 games and what would be the problem asking anyone in the organization why…just one time? What would be wrong with asking why Petersson got to play only one game? I guess I see things differently Mikey…I don’t know how asking a question, only once, would compromise a relationship.

    I love to criticize Karlsson? Well Mikey, you love to celebrate him. Indeed you like to celebrate everyone of them whether they suck or they don’t and that is your perogative buddy! I don’t criticize you for it so why criticize me for expressing what I see and think. Have I stated anything that may be construed as fictitious? I, like Pierre, will not celebrate a defenceman who: cannot skate backwards, will not go into a corner, will not hound the opposition in front of his goaltender, will not show up for a tough game, will give the puck away so often (and as a defenceman, he does inside his blueline not 150 feet away), will not block shots, will not hit anyone, will never beat anyone on the outside, will not take the puck and go from end to end unless of course the coast is clear, will get caught up the ice and out of position many times ever game and I can go on. To me, that is not the job description for a defenceman. But, as I have said often, that is just me. I want to hear what everyone has to say and if I wxpress I don’t like Karlie, like you saying you like him, it should be OK!

    I think you dwell on the negative Mikey. I have praised the players who I thought were worthy all year long (as much as I have harped on the bums). I love what I saw from Petersson; in spite of his stature, he went into the corners, he wanted the puck, he did things with it and he manufacture opportunities. I have celebrated Neil having scored 13 goals playing the type of game he plays. I have cheered for Smith and his 15 goals, even when he was sitting in the press box to make room for Daisey the Air Rifle so he could score his amazing 4 goals (his best year as a professional). I have celebrated Carkner for two years as the only defenceman who will hit anyone with conviction and making the opposition think twice when they cross our blueline. I have celebrated Michalek, Spezza (from time to time), Turris, Praise Alfie, Foligno (although I say he is slow). I have praised the coach. I have expressed excitement with the prospects. I concede I hate BS though. When I hear it, I am compelled to say something.

  7. Dennis_w says:

    I hope Alfie doesn’t play. One game’s not worth possibly affecting the rest of his life.

    This organization’s been using this guy for a crutch for too long. He’s done enough. He’s not the future. Time for others to step up.

  8. Mike8888 says:

    Bobby,
    As I’ve said, we’re all entitled to our opinions. Sometimes it just seems all you do is look for negativity in everything Senators. I guess everyone could look for negatives in everything, but what ever. Great game last night even though we lost. The Sen’s played great, and if they continue to play that way, I still think we can win the series.

  9. Bobby Goodman says:

    Perhaps Yosemite Sam is short with the media for a few of reasons: a) he is short (when he jumps over a pound of butter he greases his butt); b) he wants to perpetuate the myth that he is a good coach and the reality is, he has the best goalie in the world (the Rangers are playing the way they have all year, outshot, outplayed but winning games because of Lundquist); c) by being crusty, like Lord Burke, he thinks some reporters will be afraid to ask the tough questions like: can you expect to have sustained success being out played/ out shot game in and game out and what are you doing, as the coach, to change that? I think he is a complete jerk and a lousy coach! Is Glen Sather too much?

    It looked to me like Gaborik really doesn’t give a damn. Callahan has not been the same player since the hit to his head by Philips.

    Spezza was awful…again. I like the line of Smith, Neil and the Android (although the Android cannot stay on his feet and can do nothing with the puck, I have wanted this line together for months). Butler shocked the hell out of me and played well, for him. OmyGod-Brien couldn’t hit water if he fell out of a boat. I love Turris. He, like Karlie, is very slight but…he goes everywhere all the time. He tries to beat guys on the outside. He goes into corners. He fights for the puck and skates hard with it. Damn he looks good. When he puts on a few pounds of muscle and gets stronger, he will be even more gooder. Gilroy is awful. No hits, no blocked shots, no nuthin. Damn I hate yappers and Konopka is one of the very worst. Just shut the %&*# up and play the game. He, like Ruutu before him, is a blemish on the Organization and an embarrassment.

    Konopka and Foligno (and Foligno has done it all year) crash the net and Lundquist hard, all the time and every game. They are trying to get into Lundquist’s kitchen but it wont work. He is very tough metally. I wonder if Carkner will play next game, I suspect he has to and if he does, will Scott then dress? I hope so.

    LA is winning the series with the ‘Nucks because Quick has been brilliant and that is all.

    Sutter is coaching the Canadian Team in the World Hockey Championship; who wooda thunk it? Damn those Sutters are brilliant hockey men. Oh, and he said something profound: “…we are going there to win”. Outstanding! It looks like he will be the bench boss in Edmonton next year…what a damn shame.

    Ottawa’s power play has been pitiful. I would like to see them do more than simply blast away from 50 feet out. I will say again, they are far too static and need to skate. If indeed they Rangers are blocking shots, by default it means they are standing in front of the shooter. With an extra man on the ice, make room by drawing a player to you, others should find a hole and move the damn puck! The PP is far too predictable. It is a shame because the Sens should be leading this series and I hate it when goalies steal games. I said before the PP would be a difference maker.

  10. Mike8888 says:

    I thought Konopka and O’Brien both played very well. Perhaps the Sen’s sould play Carkner on the wing tomorrow night with orders to go to the net. They could also put Carkner in front ot the net on the power play, like the Sen’s used to do with Chara.

  11. Bobby Goodman says:

    I hope the Sens do win Mikey but this is the game New York play and have won with all year long with! Can Lundquist keep it up? I have asked that question often and the answer is yes indeed he can; he has been doing it for years let alone months. It baffles me when I hear many say Yosemite Sam is a good coach. As coach of the Lightening when they won the Stanley Cup, like Bowman, had the best team in the world! Dave Cam-moron, Craig Harsburg, hell, even Clownston could have won a championship with the players they had lacing it up for them. Included of course was the amazing play of their goaltender (did he not set a record for shut outs that playoff run?).

    What is your call for Wednesday night Mikey? My suspicion is more of the same with the Sens outshooting, out chancing and holding a territorial edge over them but ultimately losing. The PP needs to be better if they have any chance of winning and it has been bad for a long time now. Spezza has been awful and he is forcing passes to players who are not open. The scorers aren’t scoring goals and worse yet, the Sens may be without Praise Alfie and that changes the dynamic (and effectiveness) of some key line combinations. Suddenly, the scoring and creative sensation Daisey the Air Rifle will be a gunner on a line with Spezza and Michalek. Condra and his 8 goals (they were all scored up front and he had but 2 the last 26 games) or Butler and his 6 play with Foligno and Turris. I really do like the 3rd line though. Having Greening with Smith really does expose the difference between the two players (sorry for being negative). Smith wants the puck, can skate with the puck, will shoot the puck, will make a play with the puck and will hit anyone/everyone and not fall down. To think the Android got a longer term contract and more money still defies reason.

    The Rangers block a lot of shots, more than any other team in the NHL. Neither do they give the puck away very often. Last game the Rangers gave the puck away twice to Ottawa’s 9 times. I don’t know what constitutes a give away anymore because I thought the Sens gave it away even more (I don’t know what characterizes a hit either).

    With the Sens PP floundering, the Rangers worry less about going out of their way to make a hit. I thought that they really took Ottawa lightly for the first ten minutes in the second game. When they had a man advantage for 5 minutes I didn’t see any real effort or urgencey to get the puck up the ice quickly and penetrate Ottawa’s blueline. I was sure Yosemite was going to supernova! In these games where goals are hard to come by, it is that much more important to creat opportunities and capitalize on them! Who knows, maybe the Sens will score a PP goal. I knew some players who would wing one by a shot blocker or goalie’s mellon just to make them think twice.

  12. PaV says:

    So alfie has had a set back…. I doubt he will be playing tmw.

    Alfie is great, he can change a game… Ottawa just need to play their game like they did in game 3 but a little more gritty and get in to King Lunds face….

    If we lost tmw, we won’t win the series.

    GO SENS GO

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