All eyes on P.K. with clock ticking

- July 30th, 2014

The arbitration hearing for P.K. Subban is set for Friday.
It won’t get there. It can’t get there. The guy has too much talent, he has too much heart and he has no shortage of desire. Subban is one of the guys the Habs should build their team around.
I think he’s a tremendous talent and a excellent player.
I don’t honestly believe the Montreal Canadiens want to go into an arbitration hearing with Subban they know they are going to lose.
The last guy to get awarded $7.5 million was Shea Weber.
Subban is going to get more. He will easily get $8 million and is seeking $8.5 million. On the open market, he’d be a $10 million player.
The Habs don’t need this battle. Their fanbase doesn’t want it.
My guess is he settles for an eight year deal worth $64 million.
I told Doug Hempstead if Subban doesn’t get that contract then I owe him a coffee. I just don’t see the Habs want to make this battle personal.
Get it done and get it done quickly. I really believe Habs’ GM Marc Bergevin will. That makes the most sense. Subban’s agent Don Meehan is a dealmaker.

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11 comments

  1. Bobby Goodman says:

    I don’t understand what Bergevin is doing with the Subban contract negotiations. As every hockey pundit has said, he is the Montreal Canadians; he is loved by his team mates and even more by the fans.

    The kid puts up points and shows up in tough games. In the last 4 years he posted 124, 119 57 (42 gms) and 81 pim. He can hurt you with his body and his skill. He didn’t shy away from Lucic when the Habs took out the Bruins in the first round last year. He has 30 points in 43 playoff games and last year he had 14 in 17 games. Subban is also takes his job very seriously. He is a freak in the gym and hell bent to make himself stronger, faster and better. He’s dedicated and committed. He’s also fantastic with the media. He’s articulate, inteligent and when he was invited to join the “Panel” on TSN, he showed the poise of a 20 year veteran.

    I understand the two sides are “negotiating” and posturing right now but from this fool’s perspective, Bergevin is only delaying the inevitable. The Organization will eventually sign Subban for a minimum of 7 years and 50 million plus. Subban’s camp surly knows this.

    No one is going to be offended by what Bergevin offered, it is just part of the process. Subban and his agent know they will get what they want. If it goes to arbitration, he’ll get what he wants and the next year again when negotions happen again, he will get what he wants. This tactic by Bergevin, as far as I am concerned, serves only to delay the inevitable.

    In spite of what one may say here, the Habs are extremely tight and Subban may very well be the named Captain because he’s so popular and highly respected by his team mates. It may be difficult for one hear, but that is the reality.

  2. PaV says:

    Bruce, I do not think that Subban is that talented. I think he is good yes, and granted he did win a Norris, but that was in a condensed season. I do think a deal will be done before tomorrow, but I do not think he is worth 8 million a year. I would think he will get somewhere around the 6.5-7 million mark.

  3. PaV says:

    Yes, Subban was well respected when he threw his jersey on the change room floor and Hall Guill called him out on his BS. He was well respected when he held out coming to camp due to contract issues and him acting like a child – and not one of his teammates congratulated him on his 2 year contract. So. Very. Well. Respected.

  4. PaV says:

    Oh.. don’t forget that Subban and his ‘respek’ that he demanded from the Boston Bruins.

  5. PaV says:

    “It’s been completely respectful on both sides,” Subban told TSN Radio 690 on Thursday

    Good, I am glad that he is giving the Habs the ‘respek’ they deserve and vice versa.

  6. KevinF says:

    All part of the negotiation game Subban will sign a mega Hab deal. Dynamic player with flaws.

  7. Bobby Goodman says:

    “Bruce, I don’t think Subban is that talented”…”Dave, the Habs are screwing around with someone that has a lot of raw talent”. No these aren’t statements from two individuals, these are posts from the same guy.

  8. PaV says:

    You lack of intelligence and third grade education is coming out.

  9. Daniel Murphy says:

    So Subban signs for 9 million per year for eight years. I am still trying to figure out why the owners decided to lock out the player a few years ago. Anyway, in 4 or 5 years time, 9 million per season will seem like a bargain and Subban will start moaning that he is grossly under paid.

    Bobby, I still think trading Anderson sooner than later will get you more in return. Although Lehners stats don’t look that good, one must remember our porous defenceman etc…and it is more likely that as the team improves, his stats will improve as well.

    Karlsson probably now thinks he is severely underpaid thanks to tbe Subban contract.

  10. Bobby Goodman says:

    The “not that talented” Subban file is a curious one Dan. As I posted earlier, he was going to win this fight and get what he wanted…eventually. For Bergevin to offer the “not that talented” Suckubban 9m/yr for 8 years after trying to squeaze him for 5.3m made no sense. The GM appeared to be all over the map! He basically offered Suckubban the same money the Organization signed Markov for. Who brings more value? Markov was awful in the post season last year (when hockey is played tighter, harder and the real players show up) while Suckubban played great with 14 points in 16 games. He was also very physical, just ask Lucic! How many times did we witness a very slow Markov make a bad decision to pinch and then get caught?

    There will be no hangovers from these negotiations; the deal is done and I suspect both sides are happy and glad it’s over. The “small, slow, cowardly, talentless and iligitimate Habions” will have their new Captain for the next 8 years. I don’t know how they managed to beat the mighty Bruins in the first round last year though. Suckubban is a cancer in the dressing room and not liked or respected by his team mates!

    As for Karly, He may think he is under paid, but it wont really matter. He is going to be with the club for 5 more years. The Organization pays him 6.5, annually and it was a good deal all around in 2012. The kid had 78 points in 81 games, the Sens had to pony up! When the deal was done, the DAC said Karly had to repeat his performance to truly be worthy of his contract and it will be interesting to see what he does this year. Karly is gifted, there is not doubt, but he needs to be more committed if he wants to stay among the league’s elite. He led the league in points last year; he will always be in the lead or around the leaders, but he needs to do more. He also led the league in Gva, missed shots, was 8th worst in the league in plus/minus, was on the ice for many goals scored against and everyone noticed how awful he was in his own end. All of the bad is fixable if he had a better attitude and truly wanted bhis team to win. I still think he will want out in a year or two.

    Moving Anderson will be a risky proposition Dan. As you pointed out, he will be great one year and then faulter the next. I have seen enough of Lehner to believe he can be very good but I now question how much he believes in himself. We aren’t close enough to truly know what is going on but I have noticed a transformation from “The Lehner” to Robyn. I am probably wrong (yet again) but for him to be as pleased as punch with his contract, which is Winner’s discount-like, speaks volumes. I was also shocked to read he doesn’t want to play every day. That’s not what I want to hear from a young goaltender who is supposed to be the future and been with the Organization for 4 years! Afterall, this kid won the Calder Cup for Bingo (they didn’t have a great team…but he certainly was).

  11. Bobby Goodman says:

    It is funny how things work out huh Dan. We armchair quarterbacks wanted the Organization to keep Bishop and move Anderson but that didn’t happen. Bishop went to Tampa and ended up a Vezina finalist! The Sens got yet another small forward (Connacher) in return and he was allowed to walk away for nothing! The Lightning will pay Bishop 6m/yr for two years. I suspect he believes he died and went to hockey heaven.

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