Been awhile

- June 21st, 2014

Sorry for the delay coming in here.
Was run around this month. Trying to get some holidays in plus was back and forth between Montreal plus the final two games of the Stanley Cup final.
Not much of a final. Anti-climatic really. We expected the Kings to win and they did.
So now what?
We wait for Jason Spezza to be dealt.
You have to think he will go at the draft.
Not sure they will get what everybody thinks they will.
I assume they will want a player, prospect and No. 1 pick.
There has to be more than St. Louis and Anaheim involved here.
Headed to the draft. Will do a better job keeping this updated through free agency.
From there going to take some holidays.
Nice to have the football team back.
Oh and here’s their schedule released on Sunday:

2014-15 Ottawa Senators regular-season schedule (all times Eastern and subject to change)
Thursday, Oct. 9, at Nashville, 8 p.m.
Saturday, Oct. 11, at Tampa Bay, 7 p.m.
Monday, Oct. 13, at Florida, 7:30 p.m.
Thursday, Oct. 16, vs. Colorado, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Oct. 18, vs. Columbus, 7 p.m.
Wednesday, Oct. 22, vs. Toronto, 7 p.m.
Saturday, Oct. 25, vs. New Jersey, 7 p.m.
Sunday, Oct. 26, at Chicago, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Oct. 28, at Columbus, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Oct. 30, vs. Chicago, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Nov. 1, at Boston, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Nov. 4, vs. Detroit, 7:30 p.m.
Thursday, Nov. 6, vs. Minnesota, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Nov. 8, vs. Winnipeg, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Nov. 11, at Vancouver, 10 p.m.
Thursday, Nov. 13, at Edmonton, 9:30 p.m.
Saturday, Nov. 15, at Calgary, 10 p.m.
Thursday, Nov. 20, vs. Nashville, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Nov. 22, vs. St. Louis, 3 p.m.
Monday, Nov. 24, at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.
Tuesday, Nov. 25, at St. Louis, 8 p.m.
Friday, Nov. 28, at Florida, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Nov. 29, at Tampa Bay, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Dec. 2, at N.Y. Islanders, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Dec. 4, vs. N.Y. Islanders, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Dec. 6, at Pittsburgh, 1 p.m.
Sunday, Dec. 7, vs. Vancouver, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Dec. 11, vs. Los Angeles, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Dec. 13, at Boston, 1 p.m.
Wednesday, Dec. 17, at New Jersey, 7 p.m.
Friday, Dec. 19, vs. Anaheim, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Dec. 20, at Montreal, 7 p.m.
Monday, Dec. 22, at Washington, 7 p.m.
Saturday, Dec. 27, vs. Detroit, 7 p.m.
Monday, Dec. 29, vs. Buffalo, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Jan. 3, at Boston, 1 p.m.
Sunday, Jan. 4, vs. Tampa Bay, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Jan. 6, at Philadelphia, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Jan. 8, at Colorado, 9 p.m.
Saturday, Jan. 10, at Arizona, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Jan. 13, at Dallas, 8:30 p.m.
Thursday, Jan. 15, vs. Montreal, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Jan. 17, vs. Carolina, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Jan. 20, at N.Y. Rangers, 7 p.m.
Wednesday, Jan. 21, vs. Toronto, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Jan. 29, vs. Dallas, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Jan. 31, vs. Arizona, 3 p.m.
Tuesday, Feb. 3, at New Jersey, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Feb. 5, vs. Washington, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 7, vs. Columbus, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, Feb. 10, at Buffalo, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Feb. 12, vs. Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 14, vs. Edmonton, 2 p.m.
Monday, Feb. 16, vs. Carolina, 7:30 p.m.
Wednesday, Feb. 18, vs. Montreal, 7 p.m.
Friday, Feb. 20, at Buffalo, 7 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 21, vs. Florida, 7 p.m.
Wednesday, Feb. 25, at Anaheim, 10 p.m.
Thursday, Feb. 26, at Los Angeles, 10:30 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 28, at San Jose, 10:30 p.m.
Tuesday, March 3, at Minnesota, 8 p.m.
Wednesday, March 4, at Winnipeg, 7:30 p.m.
Friday, March 6, vs. Buffalo, 7:30 p.m.
Sunday, March 8, vs. Calgary, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, March 10, vs. Boston, 7:30 p.m.
Thursday, March 12, at Montreal, 7:30 p.m.
Friday, March 13, at N.Y. Islanders, 7 p.m.
Sunday, March 15, vs. Philadelphia, 7 p.m.
Tuesday, March 17, at Carolina, 7 p.m.
Thursday, March 19, vs. Boston, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, March 21, vs. Toronto, 7 p.m.
Monday, March 23, vs. San Jose, 7:30 p.m.
Thursday, March 26, vs. N.Y. Rangers, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, March 28, at Toronto, 7 p.m.
Sunday, March 29, vs. Florida, 5 p.m.
Tuesday, March 31, at Detroit, 7:30 p.m.
Thursday, April 2, vs. Tampa Bay, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, April 4, vs. Washington, 7 p.m.
Sunday, April 5, at Toronto, 7:30 p.m.
Tuesday, April 7, vs. Pittsburgh, 7:30 p.m.
Thursday, April 9, at N.Y. Rangers, 7 p.m.
Saturday, April 11, at Philadelphia, 12:30 p.m.

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17 comments

  1. Bobby Goodman says:

    Indeed the final games were anti-climactic; we saw the best when LA played San Jose, Anaheim and Chicago. It is amazing how much better the Western Conference is than the East, I mentioned it before but neglected to add Minni to the list (SJ, LA, Chic, StL, Col, Ana and Win) of Western teams that would have beaten NYR.

    What does everybody think “they will get for Spezza” Bruce? If even the DAGM says they “wont win” why would some fans? If they wont win, why did the GM introduce a trade in the first place? If I was a DAGM (and I surely would be) I wouldn’t be in a hurry at all.
    Spezza has been a hard ass at all so why the rush. Surely there will be desperate teams in the new year for a player they believe will either put them in a playoff position or for the better teams, give them a better chance to win the Prize. That’s a better time to make a trade. But Murray put himself in this position with his mouth and stupidity to make a move on or before the draft. Why can’t he just be a classy professional. While other organizations are making the investment to make their organization better, Ottawa stands pat with substandard personel. You have to wonder how low they will go before the owner takes notice and does the right thing. In Ottawa’s case, how is the GM being measured? Who is honestly doing the measurement. Melnyk had an opportunity to make and change but instead gave the GM (and his cronies) two more years to inflict damage to the Team and the Organization.

    The word is out now, Steve Simmons is another writer asking why great players want out of Ottawa. I am sure he has the answer(s) but pullled a Frank Costanza and “stopped short” of sharing them with us. What an embarrassment really.

    What a shame Evander Cain is such a jerk. He could be one the the league’s best. He is big, fast, talented, tough and he can skate! I suspected he would be trouble early when he said he “would never play for Ottawa because of the way they treated Emery”. I guess the Sens should have offered Emery an even more lucrative multi-year, multi-million dollar contract after staying up ’till all hours in the Stanley Cup final and losing. They should have turned a blind eye to him: missing or arriving late for meetings/practices/flights, breaking the law frequentlfy and and claiming he was targetted by the police, challenging old men to fight with him….etc.

    We have witnessed some player transformations before: Kessler, Seguin immediately come to mind, so maybe some team with a player who can metor the kid will make a play to get him. It is hard for me to understand how someone so very blessed, would allow a great opportunity to play in the NHL and make an impression (in a multitude of ways) go by the wayside. It is a shame.

    Have a great vacation Bruce and may all your drives be long and go right down the middle.

  2. Bobby Goodman says:

    On the way back from an appointment I heard on 1200 how Spezza came to the defence, offered support and some advice for Sam Bennet. Bennet couldn’t do a single pull-up (imagine what he could do if he was stronger?!) and he’s been getting ripped for it. Spezza sent him a note and offered:
    - don’t worry what others say; he offered he has been getting grief and that simple motives him
    - don’t hide from your weakness, work that much harder to get stronger
    - I haven’t seen you play but you are a fantastic hockey player and don’t let others take this great experience away

    Spezza hasn’t had a single player he’s played with say a bad word about him. He’s never had a writer complain. He’s been great on the ice, bench, dressing room and off the ice. And, he has been fantastic with the kids. Had it not been for Spezza, they would have their induction ceremony, he’s championed every year except the year he missed because he was hurt…it didn’t happen that year.

    This too is leadership. Who will be doing it all when he is gone? Karly?

    Congratulations and best of luck to Gerrard Galant; Montreal’s loss will be Florida’s gain. I think he is very different than Therien.

    Congratulation to 16 year old Brooke Henderson; being the lowest Amateur in the Women’s US Open is “phenominal”. Maybe Sandra Post will be gracious enough to say she is a “phenom”.

    I made a call early that Michelle Wie or Lexi Thompson would win the Women’s Open, based on their strength and distance. The only thing holding Wie back was her confidence. There is a point when an athlete needs to stand on their own. It hasn’t helped Wie to have David Bedwetter and her parents with her everywhere and all the time). Last year she was hitting 50 pitches and Bedwetter was stopping her between every shot, holding on to the club in various positions of swing to make the ball go only 50 yards. One of the analysts said: “this is what is wrong with Wie. After 12-14 years with a world class coach, a 50 yard shot should be automatic and be all about feel. You should see it, feel it and just do it. Mechanics should be the furthest thing from her mind. She is over coached and technical thoughts must creep in on just about every shot. This can only hurt her…allow here to play”! The ex-player was so right. I am not fond of the changes Bewetter made to Wie’s swing. If somone is naturally long, why manipulate the swing to shorten it and the opposite is so for someone with a short swing. Even still, she has as good a swing as there is in the game. If she could have the confidence of some of the others who have dominated who she outdrives by 50 yards, she will win many more tournaments.

    She found a way to putt that is entirely her own and although it ‘s ugly it works…its hers! This kid could have won a major when she was 14! Lets hope for her sake, she can continue what she did this weekend.

    No one on tour finds it in the dirt any more…it’s bought!

  3. Bobby Goodman says:

    As you might expect, I have a few issues with Donny’s piece in the Sun today. Some of the examples of so called Spezza “lowlights” are not lowlights at all!

    When he first arrived here in Ottawa, he was sent down to Bingo and he was spectacular. He didn’t complain at all, he didn’t shun the media, he didn’t curse and he made no excuses. Scoring 171 points in 123 games was unreal and should be celebrated. The only lowlight was the comentary by the one dimensional, predictable and boring Coach, Martin. How the hell this could be called a lowlight is baffling but it is par for the course for all things Spezza.

    The “chase” is another example. Anyone who plays the game knows, in your own end of the rink you want to keep the oponent to the outside and not allow them to beat you inside where they may have position to get to the net. In spite of not being the swiftest skater, Jason kept Crosby outside the entire time where he finally fell down but fed the puck to another. This is failure?

    The injuries are a shame but are they a lowlight? They may be unfortunate events but I wouldn’t call them lowlights.

    Spezza’s dash 26 is God awful but it should come with an asterix don’t you think? Jason played with 9 different wingers….NINE! He was the top center on the team playing with 9 wingers and many were awful. Almost all of them were minus players! Only Hemsky (when he arrives later in the year) showed he was capable offensively; and only then did Michalek start to score. Spezza’s numbers when Hemsky arrived where fabulous and he was a plus player….isn’t that amazing? You add the reality he had Karly on the ice for almost every shift he played, and it is understandable he would post a bad number (just like Backstrom did playing with OV in Washington).

    “The desire to leave”? C’mon Donny, this is too is silly. The DAGM started the discussion; and Annika left because of a mis-communication? The only missing part was his desire to stay here and it is hard to communicate when you don’t return emails and phone calls. Annika wanted out and a coward to explain the reality to the public. He held a very scripted press conference to punctuate the lie. It had to be scripted because he is awful on his own. After 11 years Spezza doesn’t like the heat in the kitchen? Really? He will be the 3rd Star to want out of Ottawa! Annika wanted out and he never got any heat in his kitchen…he was treated like a God! No, Spezza ASKING for a trade is doing the Organization a favor. Something Annika was unwiulling to do! This isn’t a lowlight at all. It is however another example how Spezza has been willing to help the francise.

    It really is mind boggling. Spezza’s been a target for criticism and still is while Karly is crowned. Spez never led the team or league in Gva. He isn’t a minus player for his career. He never shunned the media, was crude and classeless or quit nights. But Karly is guilty and he is C material?

  4. Bobby Goodman says:

    So the NHL Hall of Fame have new members today. All of them are worthy. Some may question Rob Blake but there can be denying he was a fabulous defencemen. But it leaves me wondering what the criteria is to make it to the Great Hall; is it as much a popularity contest as it is based on performance? Who are the ones who make the call and are they worthy? To me there’s a lot of questions associated with both the qualification criteria and the final decision who enters the Hall. There are many inconsistencies.

    Take for example Can Neely. I love the guy from the time I first got to see him play in Vancouver. He as big, strong and could really bring it if he had to and I had no idea he would be a prolific scorer. in his injury shortened career he 694 in 726 games. Those are great numbers, but are they Hall worthy? If they are then why isn’t Lindros in the HoF? He too suffered an in injury that shortened his career but he got 865 points in 760 games! If HoF appointers made a provision for Neely, why not Lindros and his numbers are far better? Every body loved Cam but you can’t say the same for Lindros.

    Then you have guys like Dale Howerchuk. Howerchuk played most of his career in Winnipeg. He posted 1409 pts in 1188 games! Absolutely fabulous numbers. In the post season he 98 points in 99 games. Yet, he is not in the HoF. Why? Certainly if Neely is a member, so should Dale Howerchuk? It took forever for Dino Cicceralli to get in. Again, you have to wonder why.

    I know it can’t be the easiest thing to do but there must be some consistency. Forsberg is in the hall and Howerchuk is not? C’mon.

    The HoF commitee couldn’t have done the right thing and given Pat Burns the HoF membership while he was alive. Why? Most knew who would go to the Hall eventually so why not do the right thing and let him bask in the light in his final days? I don’t know why the Broad Steet Bullies head coach Ray Shero is in the HoF. This period is a blemish on the League. I still have visions of Dave “The Hammer” Shulz pouding Dale Rolf to a pulp with his fists and a head butt. I stll see Clarke telling everyone he would hurt Karlamov and did by breaking his ankle with a slash. I see see the Hound, Mad Dog and Moose running around breaking bones. This was a dark time in the League and Shero was entirely responsible.

    Rob Blake is going to the Hall and he is deserving. It can be difficult for Dmen but, if Terry Harper and Carl Brewer are members, certainly so should Blake.

    I have always had difficulty with awards that are earned by judges. All too often it leds itself to suspiscion, corruption and inconsistency so I guess I shouldn’t expect it would be different for the NHL Hall of Fame. Afterall, the word is out that the cross dressing (part Libverace, part Bozo the clown), fool of HNIC will be there some day.

    When inconistencies happen and dumb decisions are made it takes some luster of the Hall (at least it does for me).

  5. PaV says:

    Its a one man Bobby show!!! Same rants – thought it would change over the summer – but alas it hasn’t!!

  6. Bobby Goodman says:

    I do get a kick out of the myth that is propogated by the media that Yzerman and his teams got better when he changed his game. It is said he became more of a “complete” player. What nonsense. He became a “complete” player when he couldn’t score the way he used to and like stars before and after him, he found other ways to contribute.

    Did his change make the team better, I would say that is hogwash too. Yzerman was a minus player his first 4 years in the league but he was +30 in ’88, the same year Joey Kocur and Bob Probert laced it up! It changed everthing. Mr. Happy was on a lousy team but they slowly got better with the addition of Klima and Gallant that year. Yzerman was +17 then -6 and -2 the next couple of years but then the Organization added Federov, Primeau, then Ysebart, Sheperd, Coffey; later Chiasson, Konstantinov, Lidstrom, Fetisov.

    As Yzerman skills declined, the team’s overall skill got a hell of a lot better. Brilliant Bowman’s timing was impeccable. He joined the team in ’91 when the team started to emerge as a powerhouse. In ’93 and ’94 Yzerman was 3rd then 6th in team scoring. It happens as players get older but his dwindling skills (although still brilliant) was not the reason for the team’s success, it had to do with the GM. The hockey club got Shannahan while Mcarty, Lapointe and Ward Draper’s games grew.

    If anyone watched Yzerman play, whether it was in Junior for the Petes or in the NHL for Detroit, there is no way they could say he didn’t play a two-way game. He bled for the team every shift, every game, all year and every year. And if any GM today was honest, they would take the early Steve Yzerman over the later more “complete” version any day of the week.

    What never gets mentioned is the work that Jacques Demers did with the team. In 88 he moved the team from a horrible goal differential to a plus 41! Again however, it was the same year the very frightening Joey Kocur and Bob Probert (who could also scrore goals) joined the hockey club.

    It is amazing to me how stories can morph over the years. As the years go by, they can become that much more profound. If you don’t believe me, just look at the “Gordie Howe Hatrick” (goal, assist, fight in one game); he did it once in his 100 years in the league (you see, I am guilty of it too)!!! There have been multitudes who did it more often.

    Yzerman was one of the greatest players to play the game. His numbers are out of this world but he played for a team that was awful, got better and then became great with the addition of great players. Ken Holland although not the GM during the transition had a hand in the transformation. He was Director of Scouting and A/GM.

    Players can go from one team to another and their numbers can change dramatically. In recent years some went from being a bum in +/- to super star after joining the Bruins. When the Wings were bad Y’s numbers were as well; and when the team got better…

  7. OD99 says:

    Admit I did not see the article that Don penned on Spezza’s lowlights but I agree with Bobby.

    I never understood why Spezza was vilified for that play with Crosby – he did everything right but a floater from the point went in and somehow it is Spezza’s fault? It isn’t just Don though, it is on TSN highlights, etc…it stands out because of how long the play was developing but certainly not a negative on Spezza at all.

    The team that Murray inherited will have only Neil and Philips left when play resumes this Fall so as someone who has defended Murray on many occasions I hope to see the transformation begin to take shape. A lot will depend on who we get back for Spezza (I also agree with Bobby that we shouldn’t “have” to trade him before the season starts) and who, if anyone, we sign as FA but I think the real growth has to come from the youngsters or else it will be a very long season.

    I do expect Stone (who I would like to see play with Turris and C-Mac) to step up and prove he is a legit top 6 forward. I believe he was healthy to finish the season so for the first time in several years he can have a full off season of training and should come back a bit stronger and a bit quicker. If he bird-dogs players and hounds the puck like he did at the end of this past campaign we do have a good player here.

    If Hoffman can maintain his history of taking time to adjust to a new level before showing he can score at an above average pace then our top 6 might not be as light as we expect.

    Zibby is still an enigma to me – he has proven that he should be able to score at about a 50 point pace and that is with limited ice time and even more limited PP time but progression isn’t linear so hard to say if 2nd line minutes will equal out to an improved performance. I hope he comes to camp in great shape and proves he deserved the high pick used on him. I could see a 2nd line of Hoff / Zibby / Ryan and if they mesh could surprise as a defensively sound scoring unit.

    3rd line could be Condra / Smith / Greening with a 4th of…Neil and…? Pageau?
    If Milan signs then I would expect him to be on the 2nd line so perhaps Hoffman has to move down to the 3rd and Condra goes to 4th? When we factor in who we get back for Spezza it is obvious things are going to be vastly different…we may package more than Spezza too.

    On D I am excited to see if Ceci can come in and be a little more offensive minded and defensively imposing. He is a big kid who angles pretty well but should get a little nastier.

    How Cowen plays is anyone’s guess but I will put on my Sens coloured glasses and say he will be leaps and bounds ahead of last year while hoping Wiercioch gets a full-time gig to show his stuff.

    Agree with Bobby that Lehner needs to get at least 40+ games this year to show he has the stuff.

    If Karlsson comes back refreshed and in a better mind set I still think he can be in the discussion for best player in the world.

  8. Bobby Goodman says:

    It must upset some that Crosby won 3 awards this year, including the MVP and scoring championship. Maybe he is the best player in the world.

    It was amusing to hear the new Pen’s Coach, Johnston talk about “habits” when he was introduced to the media. He said that stats didn’t matter as much as establishing good habits in preparation for post season play. I don’t think bad habits was the issue at all last year. What might have been the problem is the goaltending and lack of depth. When teams focussed entirely on Crosby, who picked up the slack? What did Bylsma do to address his best player being brutalized; he didn’t dress Engelland for a single game! Why was Malkin allowed, as the media reported, to float about for a a few games? I thought Johnston sounded amateurish, like he was talking about a Junior hockey team. To this fool, it sounded like he was trying a wee bit too hard to….please someone.

    Is it possible I could be right and Michalek will leave Ottawa as well as Spezza and Hemsky, which would mean all 3 of the so-called second line will be gone? But don’t worry, the triumvirate of Murray, Dorion and Lee have all the bases covered!

    I saw Dorion on TSN telling how the draft this year is relatively weak. Yet, it is imperative the Ottawa Senators “trade Spezza before the draft to secure a first round selection”! Why? Wouldn’t it make much more sense to wait a few months and then take advantage when teams are desperate? Why is this team in a hurry; aren’t we all expecting a bad year? Was the situation the Sens now find themselves part of Murrays 3-4-5 year rebuild plan? We never hear about other possible trades. Shouldn’t the Sen’s brain trust explore moving Andy?

    So Sam Bennet may go first or second overall in the NHL draft, but again, he wasn’t good enough for Bob Nicholson and the rest of Hokey Canada’s gurus to play for his country in the World Junior Hockey Championship last year. Do we see a pattern here? Why is skill scorned year after year? The other item that repeats itself is Canada hasn’t won the WJHC in 5 years!

    Nicholson always had Edmonton Oiler’s Lowe as part of his Management Team for every International even that included NHL players; I always wondered why. Afterall, how long has Lowe been a member of the Oil management team and what the hell has he accomplished aside from earning hight drafts for futility??!! He and his managers, coaches and teams have been dreadful! So it wasn’t a surprise to see Nicholson join the Oiler Organization when he left Hokey Canada.

    I can’t believe Mr. Happy gave 30m to Callahan to play for 6 years. I can’t believe Bergevin gave Markov a contact to play 4 more years at 5m. Are these teams expecting the cap to increase…but of course they are and these are things teams must do if they are to be competitive. Sometimes players are overpaid because of the circumstances. Callahan never quits and Markov is skilled but he can be a liability.

  9. Bobby Goodman says:

    The other paper, the other day, published a story entitled: “In the end Spezza couldn’t skate away from himself”. I think the words might be interpreted as cute, but the story has no substance what do every. In the end, it is just more of what Spezza has been getting from the media here in Ottawa and if it was football, they would all get penalties for “piling on”.

    According to the writer, after 12 years with the Sens Spezza “never fully found the two way game that is show cased routinely by players like Toews and Kopitar. Did they Sens draft Spezza for a two way game? Is it something he demonstrated in Junior hockey? Spezza is a pt per gm player why the others are not in spite of playing on elite teams. The Sens have been horrible for the last 6 years since Murray arrived. Toews is plus 141 and look at who he has played with. Did he EVER have guys like Greening and Zzzz and regulars. Did he ever part time with players like Grant, Conacher, Neil, Smith etc? He also had Michalek who was minus 25 this year playing with him. None scored goals, nor did they assist Spezza until of course Hemsky arrived and put up the best numbers of his career with the best center he ever played with.What about Kopitar, the Citizen writer must have forgotten that there was a time the KIngs thought about moving Kopitar. Spezza is plus 58 for his career with minus 26 th

  10. Daniel Murphy says:

    In my opinion, I don’t see much out there that teams are ready to give up for Jason Spezza. I think Murray truly has his hands tied. Perhaps a blockbuster trade including 2 or 3 or even 4 players might be needed to get some sort of value back. Example, a package consisting of Spezza, Anderson and perhaps Greening or someone of that ilk might get us back a top 6 forward and a decent (top 4) defenceman. I know Winnipeg is on Jason’s no trade list, but I think Winnipeg would entertain moving Kane and Byfuglin for Spezza and Anderson. Throw in a Greening to sweeten the pot. Anyway, I simply don’t see us getting very much for Spezza. The last thing we need is some 30+ year old washed up over rated player like Brad or Mike Richards or Joe Thornton etc…

  11. Bobby Goodman says:

    Spezza is plus 58 for his career with his minus 26 this year. Kopitar is plus 47 because of his plus 34 this year playing with the Stanely Cup Champion Kings! But now he’s a great two way player. Isn’t that amazing. Spezza didn’t have Sharp, Hossa and often Kane playing with him.

    When Spezz was among the league leaders in points writers like the Citizen guy pointed out Spezza’s give aways but as I have often noted, he never led his team nor did he ever lead the league but is that ever mentioned by the local media?

    Spezza apparently played in Annika’s shadow and was a coach and fan favourite…he was also a media favourtie because he was the GM’s favourite. The media made fun of a kids nervous giggle and the disdain grew from there. Apparently Spezza couldn’t lead the team the way Annika did. Finally the writer was right; Spezza never had a chance to lead some of the best teams in the leaugue to failure 11 times in the first round! Playing “in Annika’s shadow” must have worked, Annika never played better in his career as when he played with Spezza and the same can be said of Karly, Heatley, Greening and Hemsky.

    In one breath the writer calls out Spezza but then safely covers his bases by praising him. He made others better, always smiling, he was always accomodating, thick skinned. He didn’t let Murrays “biting sarcasm” get to him. He never made excuses etrc. The writer even says he understands Spezza’s frustration at “being the fall guy” for everything.

    If Spezza’s point per game average (among active players) is rivaled only by Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin and Jagr, isn’t that reason enough to celbrate the guy? Stall is worshipped in Carolina! The Sedins are worshipped in Vancouver. Ovechkin is worshipped in Washington….Karlsson is worshipped in Ottawa! If, as the writer suggests, it was Spezza’s inablility tio be a strong player in his own zone that kept him from being a great player, how could a young defenceman who doesn’t even try in his own zone, be described as one.

    What was it about Jason Spezza that turned so many against him. Annika fails to lead his team to a Cup; fails to get them out of the first round 11 times; tells the team they don’t stand a chance, turns his back on the Organization that deified him, lied to his team mates, Coach, GM, owner and fans and he is STILL worshipped! Karlsson quits on plays, doesn’t show up for tough games, doesn’t even try in his own end, is only concerned about personal stats, doesn’t care if the team loses, is a minus player for his career, bans the media, is crude and classless and he is annointed King!?

    The Sens are “trying to cut down on defencive mistakes”. Unless I missed it, I didn’t see the DAC do anything to cut down on the many mistakes made by Karly last year. Even though he led the entire league in Gva and one of the worst D in +/-, he played 30 min per game!

    In the end, “Spezza couldn’t skate away from himself”? How silly.

  12. Bobby Goodman says:

    The Bobby Show, Pav? If you don’t like it, contribute something….anything and lets make it more than just the Bobby Show. Same rants? SAME RANTS??? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Your contributions (if you want to call it that) is entirely focussed on discreditting me or what I may have to offer. I think I’ve introduced some other topics ther Pav and some include:

    - Stanley Cup and the strength of W vs the E
    - Simmons asking why great players want out of Ottawa
    - Why the need to trade Spezza now
    - Evander Cain, Kessler, Seguin
    - Spezza on Bennet
    - Donny’s article
    - Hall of Fame and who goes and who don’t
    - Yzerman and the myth he made the team better by changing his game
    - Crosby winning 3 major awards this year (damn that must hurt huh Pav)
    - Jonston the new coach of the Pens
    - Nicholson going to the Oilers
    - Calahan, Markov; and
    - The citizen article

    Tell me mate, what’s so repetitive and why does it bother you so? If it does bother fyou so much, why do you log in? Share with us what you might think about something, anything!!!!

    Oh well, you will be you and I will be me and…sadly, c’est la vie. Now for something completely different.

    I have always believed a GM drafts the best player available and that is why Ekblad will bo to Florida. It would not surprise me to see him then get traded to Toronto!

    I will be interested to see Darnel Nurse in action for Edmonton if he makes the team although I think 95% of graduating juniors should spend at least a year in the manures.

    I would love to here what everyone has to say.

  13. KevinF says:

    Sadly Pav, Bruce has no interest in anything but the Bobby’s of the world they might even disagreewith Bruce and the backslappin buddies synchophantic coverage of the Sens but in such a ridiculous cartoonish manner that they present no challenge to him. It’s when Bruce and pals feet are put to fire that they resort to cowardly censorship, guess they missed the 1/2 hour at Algonquin journalism school when ethics were discussed,

  14. Bobby Goodman says:

    Watching whats been happening in Ottawa the last 6 years and recently with the Spezza file, one has to ask what the hell Bryan Murray has learned in his 30 plus years in the NHL! Not much I would assume.

    From the time he arrived (to coach?) he has been a single handed blunderfest. Faniaks will forget his fascination for tired old have-beens, his nepotism, fondness for rookie DACs and his “Executive AGM” program (accelerated/compressed). Instead of building, the GM has been in deconstruct mode; only Philips and Neil are left from the Stanley Cup final team he inherited. Faniaks supported keeping those two over the stars that have/will departed. One fan suggested Murray demonstrated some class and had no choice but to sign Philips for 2 more years! Yikes.

    But aside from his incompetence, it is his behaviour that may bother me even more. After 30 years he hasn’t learned a thing about “Class”.

    The Spezza situation is but one of the many examples. After years of abuse, some here were confused Spezza was named Captain of the hockey club. It was as dumb as decision as I have ever seen. As the other paper wrote, you had Annika who was loved by the GM, and then by default the media and again by default, the fans base. He was made a God! Spezza was characterized as the complete opposite (so the fans hated him). When the GM was betrayed by his “friend” Annika he then does a 180 and presents Spezza as Captain material and stiches a C on his sweater. For years the GM brow beat Jason and then in a matter of a couple of months, he’s a star and a leader!? Some here thought it was bizarre and smacked stupidity…desperation.

    When the miserable year ended, the GM went to work and again criticized Spezza. Afterall, the lousy hockey club couldn’t be the result of his incompetence…could it? He even told the media he would trade him. Spezza had to be better, didn’t lead, failed as a Captain. In typical fashion Murray returned to airing company business out in the media. He announced Spezza demanded to be traded. We know that never happened but it didn’t matter. Fans have been reading and listening about the Spezza thing for months now.

    But no deal has been done yet and today is the drop dead date to assure a first round selection (even though an AGM said is was a lite draft year)! Murray now suggests Spezza may start the year with the Sens! Can you imagine? Of course Spezza would, but how would it make him feel, what about the other players on the team. He’s been vilified for years and then he comes back? Certainly the C would be torn from his chest and given to another.

    What an embarrassment! Actually, it is yet another embarrassment. There have been many. Why doesn’t Murray just shut up? Why does he feel compelled to “sell” his sillyiness to the media and by default the fans? Where else do you see a GM behaving this way? It is no wonder why great players wont come or want out. I suspect more will leave.

  15. Bobby Goodman says:

    On the way to an appointment this morning I turned into 1200 to here what the two idiots had to say. They know nothing of course but there are…funny….to some I guess. They went on and about Spezza. One said “the fans hate a player makes millions and sucks (like Spezza did last year). They want Spezza outta here! He, “like Heatley, just cares about offence and doesn’t make an effort defencively”. “Spezza, like Heatley when he got traded is on decline”. What is so fascinating about these two morons and many just like them, their all for Michalek getting re-signed with the team!

    Michalek made 6 million dollars last year! He hade 39 points playing the full 82 games! Oh yes, he was minus 25! Never do the morons on the radio talk about that! But he, the Sens got to re-sign him. Spezza playing 75 games, after a year lost to back surgery and nagging early season injuries, was second on the team in scoring with 66 points! But he SUCKED!

    He didn’t care about defence but Karlsson did? One of them, I don’t know one goof from the other, suggested that once Spezza’s gone, maybe Karlsson would replace him as a player to pounce on because he doesn’t care about defence. But….obviously that isn’t an issue as long as Spezza is wearing black, white and red.

    There are so many inconsistencies, double standards, fictional stories that it is enough to make your head spin. The Wheel House should be called “Peyton Place”! If anyone’s skills are dwindling away, you would have to look no further than Philips who was rewarded with a 2 year deal. Neil is so bad he has resorted to being a dirty hockey player who picks his spots but they are…….leaders. Spezza numbers dwindled but I look at the reasons why. When Spezza got a player who could play the game, his numbers were phenominal and it isn’t like Hemsky is the greatest right winger but, Spezza was his best ever center (inspite of fading skills).

    I will make a prediction; Ryan will not be with the hockey club when his current contract expires. Lehner, Methot or MacArthor will want out. The question then should be, what the hell is going on. If just Ryan goes, does the GM still get a free pass? Afterall, he gave up a first round (10th this year, I think) and 2 youngsters that the Brass boasted was “the future”.

    I would love to read what you guys think. I would also love to read what you guys think the will do next year and what should happen if the team doesn’t make the post season. Would the current management team (and coaches) all stay on? If so, why?

  16. Bobby Goodman says:

    Man it is difficult to have to watch/listen to Mr. Happy in an interview. The guy (like Tim Murray) is absolutely void of personality, humour. He struggles mightily to formulate and express his thoughts.

    I would have taken Sam Bennett first overall. The three kids taken ahead of him are all great but Bennett offers more. Bennett is fast and is magic with the puck. He has an excellent shot and he can score (36 goals). He can creat opportunites for himself and others (55 assists). And…..he loves the physical side of the game. He led his team in scoring by 21 points and led them in PIM with 118! Calgary got a dandy in Bennett.

    Marc Bergevin was known as a prankster and a funny man throughout his playing career. I thought his line last night was great! They also got a real good hockey player (although I never heard of the kid).

    I expect Jake Vertanen to be a dandy professional. Vancourve did very well. The transformation there is underway. I like Bonino and Sbsa and they have Horvath and now Vertanen.

    Perhaps there wasn’t a Crosby, Stamkos or Malkin but I wouldn’t characterize this years draft as lite!

    Question, would you prefer to have Silverberg, Noesen and the 18 year old 6-3, 230 pound Nick Ritchie or Bobby Ryan who will be gone next spring? That is probably what is going to happen. But it could be worse I guess, the Sens could be stuck with Clarkson at 6m for 5 years but he didn’t want to come to Ottawa. The Lord works in mysterious ways.

    I would love to see Myers in Ottawa, he has all the tools. Call me crazy but I have always loved 6-7 inch, 220 pound defencemen who can really skate. Even if he isn’t physical, his reach gives him a major advantage to poke check (the opposition have to make their move at centre ice) or get to loose pucks. Murray should talk to Murray and see if something could be done there. With Luke Richardson (who should be here now but will at some time, eventually) Myers would prosper.

  17. PaV says:

    Bobby – you just like hearing your self type. Do you realize that every single post is a rant about something or another? Why would anyone else contribute? You know everything!!!

    I am shocked and appalled that you are not working in the front office for some NHL team.

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