“It’s Jason Pominville”

- January 14th, 2014

A visit to Minnesota gives us a chance to catch up with Jason Pominville, one of the nicer guys you’re going to meet in the NHL.
Now a top winger with the Wild, Ottawa fans remember all too well the goal he scored as a Sabre to knock the Senators out of the 2006 playoffs.
Pominville says it remains the biggest goal he has ever scored in this life.
“It’s going to be tough to beat,” said Pominville. “It was my first year, and playing that team so many times, and I think they were a bit of a favourite, to be able to go in there and pull it off was just an amazing accomplishment.
“I think it kind of established myself as a guy on the team that made me fit in, everyone maybe accepted me as part of the team. It was nice to get that and to really get established in the league.”
If you’ll remember, Pominville stole the puck from Daniel Alfredsson on his way to scoring the shorthanded, series clincher.
Asked after the game what happened on the play, Alfredsson said he didn’t expect to lose control the way he did.
“It’s Jason Pominville,” he said, insinuating he didn’t think the kid would pose any type of threat.
When I mentioned this to Pominville yesterday, he said he understood why Alfredsson would think that way. He says there are a lot of first year players in the league now that he himself does not know very well.
“I had a chance to meet him at he all star game (in Ottawa),” Pominville said of Alfredsson. “He’s a good guy. He ended up picking me to be on his team.
“I remember he said, “I never thought I’d do this.”

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12 comments

  1. PaV says:

    I remember that goal from Pominville…. I think I cried for 4 days afterwards.

    KEV – Leafs seem to have slightly recovered – two in a row and a rare win vs. the Bruins.

    Good game, only caught the first two periods – but looks like it was a good game. Nice to see Lenher pick up a win making 27 saves. The HABS lost last night. PK hasn’t had a point in 5 games where Karlsson has picked up 4 points in the last 3 games. PK has dropped to a a plus 10, which is still decent, but he seems to be dropping pretty fast. EK is at a -11 now – which according to some people on here the +/- rating determines what kind of player you are. Watching a bit of the HABS game before the SENS took to the ice, I noticed that the Habs are looking smaller and smaller each time I watch them. They are fast, I give them that, but they do not seem to have that size that they will need coming down the stretch. PK who is listed at 6ft and 216 lbs plays very small. Can someone point out to be where PK goes in to the corners and fights his way out? The guy ducks hits and will not take it up the middle. I saw him give up the puck and the soft passes were brutal. I really think he will be on a tight leash at the Olympics – I don’t see him eating up big minutes at all. One has to wonder if PK’s ego will be able to handle it.

    In the last 9 games the SENS have won 7 games (one against those much more talented Habs). Out of 18 points they have taken 15. That makes them one of the hottest teams in the NHL. But according to some, its because all those teams had injuries.

    Ole Ole Ole. Bring on Les Habs.

  2. ChokerHater says:

    Too bad he didn’t score a big goal last night

  3. Bobby Goodman says:

    Don, you could have selected a more deserving 1st Star of the game last night (Ottawa vs Minni). Did Karlsson’s 2 back end assits (on the PP again) impresses you? Or did you name his a Star to mend your relationship with him? Being around the game as long as you have surely you know that although you and the players may be friendly, but you aren’t friends! Other than the 2 PP points, Karly did nothing but fumble the puck and give it away. He didn’t lead a single rush until the team was 4 on 4 and there was lots of room. However, Turris was outstanding the entire game, Mac was again fantastic and Lehner had a shutout! Donny-boy, you should be better than this!

    Conacher is the Rodney Dangerfield of the Ottawa Senators; he never gets any credit/recognition! Again, he was by far the best player on HIS line. I say his line because again, Zzzzzz floated around the permimeter where it is safe and never went into the corners. Am I the only one who has a problem with that? A centerman is supposed to skate miles, he doesn’t. I have asked you to watch to see how often he is the first on the puck in their end willing to take a hit to get the puck…it simply doesn’t happen. He is a centerman yet he is the one postioned high in the slot waiting for a pass. The Shooter had 3 shots last night, two were from well outside and another, from 1foot. Conacher however, was fierce all night long. He pursued the puck, battled, took the hits, made plays and he looked good on the PP!

    Lehner had a relatively easy night but when it mattered, he was outstanding. I am liking the kid more; when I saw him giving a Trainer a noogy, I laughed like hell. He’s loosened up, become more relaxed and less guarded…more real.

    Spezza had a very good game but came away with nothing to show for it. Greening is useless and Stone, although smart, is not a goal scorer. The Captain should have had 2 points (minimum) if he had some talent on his line…he doesn’t. More often than not, those with him, don’t even expect a pass and are surprised when the get one. Offensive players think differently than those who aren’t. It also looked like The Spez is getting his legs and mobility back; no he isn’t a speed demon but it did look like he was moving about much better. Why has his F/O fallen off (41%)?

    Ryan is in a bit of a slump. He isn’t moving as well as he can and I wonder if he’s nursing an injury of some sort.

    Smitty is a dandy; he just seems to get better and better. He too needs some wingers.

    I was completly shocked when Minni offered Suter all that money for so many years. I have never seen what so many others see in his game that is worthy. Leading the league or among league leaders (always defencemen) in TOI speaks to the team depth not how great a player is. For someone to log a lot of minutes, they have to conserve their energy and baby, Suter conserves his energy. He may be smart, efficient but one of the league’s best, I don’t think so.

  4. Bobby Goodman says:

    A hockey player can cry when a series is lost and be called unmanly, but a fan can cry for 4 days and be a manny-man…WTF?

    No one on this blog has ever suggested that the plus/minus is the only measurement of what kind of player you are, however, there are some who say it, coupled with other stats, will paint a more accurate picture. Karly, everyone concedes, is lousy in his own end; but it isn’t because he does’t possess the skill, he chooses not to try. His refusal to go into the corners, even with a Buffalo’s Ennis, is shameful. Tiny, Tyler Ennis will go everywhere and anywhere and there are small players all over the league who will fight for the puck. Conacher does it every game. Karly is 6′ and 185lb (according to Bruce in the paper today) which puts him in the same category as Turris (6-1, 191) yet he will go into the corners and fight for the puck.

    Now I am not suggesting Karly play physical, but he must make an effort to get the puck and conceding the corners every single game puts his team at risk. Many times every game there are times the oppositon hems Ottawa in its own end and more often than not it is when Karly is on the ice. He will sit outside waitng for scraps and then take off when the coast is clear.

    Looking at the plus minus is but one way to determining what is really going on, there are other measurements. Karly has a magnificent 43 points this year and that puts him just behind Duncan Keith, but, Keith plays hard in his own end of the rink (as do Doughty, Suckubban, Weber, Pietrangllo and many others). Of the 43 points, 19 have come by way of the PP which would mean (if no shorties were scored) when the team is even strength, he is minus 11 for his 24 points. That can’t be any good…can it?

    Karly is -22 for his career and -4 in the post season. He joins the rush at every opportunity and caught up the ice often every game but Dumb and Dummer only praise him for how quickly he makes an effor to recover! He never shows up for the games against teams that play close and hard. Hell, Dumbasses make the call everytime.

    I am not sure why plus 10 is only “decent” but -11 gets no description at all. Suckubban is plus 10 an a team that struggles to score goals in spite of that he is the 3rd leading scorer among defenceman. If a “true hockey fan” is honest, they would admit that Suckubban battles for the puck…anywhere and all the time. He will give players grief in front of his net. He will smoke the opposition (like he did with Neil). He shows up every game no matter who his team plays. Yet, because he doesn’t fight, he is a coward? Go figure. It’s all so vey silly.

    Hey, Mac/T isn’t afraid to make bold moves, he acquired Scrivens and Hendricks. GTFOOH! The other paper suggests he his isn’t conscerned so much about continuing Tambellini’s fine work (dismal enough to secure high draft picks) but rebuilding the rebuild. Does acquiring Hendricks, Bryz and Scrivens qualify???

  5. Bobby Goodman says:

    Dave, you ask me to be civil in a discussion and in the same breath call me an old blowhard…

    Your notion that I rely on a plus/minus is based on a false premise. I don’t rely on them and I don’t dislike players by default and then look for ways to rationalize why? As a fan of hockey, I love a lot of players all around the league. Only those who don’t give a damn I don’t care for.

    As for the Couturier/Zzzzz comparison, there isn’t one. Averaging 40 seconds more time on the PP is huge!! You mocked it. Why? Zzzz gets the extra time and you agree with it, sometimes even more that Turris, MacArthur and Ryan?

    No a 6th overall pick isn’t selected because he is a good PK guy. Couturier was selected because he had 96 pts in 58 games his last year of Junior and 223 pts in 184 games overall! What did Zzzz do again and where did he play? He was benched in the SEL where Rund’sbad was a God! As an 18-19 year old, Couturier scored 13g and 14 assists in the NHL!

    No it isn’t important that every forward kill penalties Dave, but when you see a young kid play a regular shift, is selected to play against every teams very best, is on the second PP unit and….and kill penalties, it speaks volumes. Philly has others who can do PK but they choose Couturiera as the first unit every game! Zzzz sits and watches.

    You concede he beats people to the puck (Zzz doesn’t), is good along the boards (Zzzz isn’t), and beat someone one-one once (Zzzz doesn’t)….so what are you trying to say here Dave? Is this all bad? No a toe drag to beat an opposing palyer isn’t THE standard, but I will celebrate any move that is sucessful. Was that yet another shot at Rocco, you need to know it doesn’t hurt me Dave. I don’t grow tired a successful move but I and you should grow tierd of someone who plays an easy game on the outside and never engaging.

    Yep Dave, we were both wrong on the Juniors, but at least this old Blowhard made the call the team woudn’t win because they didn’t have their best, they had a coach who I don’t think is best and….Hokey Canada is useless.

    I don ‘t like a coach who has a perpetual scowl, you may like it. You agree that a player shouldn’t be benched for a mistake but do you agree with Sutter selecting Dumba over Nurse? What about the leading scorers in Junior?

    I also see that you agree that Karly’s commens are bad and that he doesn’t take responsibility for his bad play (a Fool celebrates both).

    All that to say Dave, what is this discussion all about?????? I watch a game and make calls on what I see, you watch a game through rose coloured glasses and don’t see the entire picture. You and your kind choose not to. If you paid attention, you might have known that Couturier was held back in Philly and forced to play a defencive game primarily. Under the new coach (who I have misjudged in a major way) has allowed him to play the way he is capable.

    You are a loyal fan Dave and that is great, but see more please.

  6. OD99 says:

    OK so it is a comprehension issue – you just don’t understand written English very well and now it all makes a lot more sense.

    That, coupled with your inflated sense of ego prevent you from having any rational discussion because your ego only lets your thoughts matter and tricks you in to believing everything you say and do is correct. I guess in a way it is nice to be sheltered from reality that way but you will never have a normal discussion on here due to your limitations.

    I will keep these points brief as perhaps if things are kept that way you have a small chance of actually understanding at least parts of them.

    I didn’t call you a wind bag, here is exactly what I said:

    “Show me you aren’t just an old windbag. Prove to me that I should actually engage with you by having a rational response. No childish name calling, no putting words in my mouth or thoughts in my head – just a civil reply.”

    Some of your many responses:

    “I watch a game and make calls on what I see, you watch a game through rose coloured glasses and don’t see the entire picture. You and your kind choose not to.”

    “You are a loyal fan Dave and that is great, but see more please.”

    “Whereas I will look at many factors to determine a players contribution Dave, you (and your kind) do not.”

    “You celebrate them because…..they are Senators”

    “This is a concept that might be too much for you and your kind to understand”

    “Yet, you love him anyway, the same way you loved em all that were here including: Daisey the Air Rifle (and endorsed him playing while Smitty didn’t even dress), Butler, Da Costa, Rund’sbad, Cowan, Gryba, Lundin, Latendresse, Gilroy, Pageau, Wiercoch et al!”

    “You are a good soldier Dave (you and your kind) and the Senator Organization is very greatful. You love the fact that Ottawa flounders to make the play offs and if they do, they either go out in the first round or they lose embarrassingly in the second. This is great hockey as far as you are concerned. I say fabulous, you are blessed it captures your imagination and feeds your enthusiasm. I want more…I want the team to be good again. You and friends don’t care.”

    You see that? You aren’t saying anything of substance Bobby – your ego and immaturity come through and you suggest HOW I think and WHAT I think. Not a discussion, just a dismissal because you don’t like my thoughts. Nobody wants to discuss anything with such a childish person.

    The funny/sad part is that I bet you either won’t understand what is written here or you will somehow think you are right and that you are engaging me in an appropriate manner

    You are so wrong on so many points about me and my thoughts but you have said them for years now so I know it won’t ever stop and really, it doesn’t matter.

  7. OD99 says:

    I don’t make mention of Spezza to hurt you Bobby and for the record your comments about any Senators player don’t hurt me either. I may disagree and attempt to provide context as to why but then the reply I get generally has something to do with telling my who I love and why I am so ignorant and ignores any of the actual facts or point of the conversation.

    Back on point – I make mention of Spezza because I am trying to make a correlation between the stats and points you make as your reasons for disliking certain Senators players and a player who you openly love.

    You don’t like Zibby and Karlsson +/-? Fine but Spezza’s is worse. Now I know you will create context for each of the scenarios. Karlsson’s is bad because he is bad defensively. Spezza’s is bad because Karlsson is bad defensively (and Michalek too – even though Michalek has long been known as a more defensive forward and gets PK time due to that).

    You don’t like that Zibby and Karlsson aren’t very physical (we disagree on this point but anyway…)? Fine but Spezza is way less physical. Now I know you will create context for each of the scenarios. Karlssons and Zibby only hit from behind and get the benefit of the Senators statisticians because everyone in Ottawa but you is in cahoots to make those two look great, regardless of how poor they are in many aspects of hockey.

    You also choose to forget how much I like Spezza and have defended Spezza on here. I think Spezza is a very good player – which is also why he makes the perfect comparison when I am attempting to show how a player can have some shortcomings but remain a very productive person on the team. It seems it does in fact hurt you though because whenever it is mentioned you get quite defensive.

    Lastly – you claim that the extra 40 seconds of PP time (on the second unit) that Zibby gets is a TON yet you completely dismiss the 5 EXTRA MINUTES OF ICE TIME PER GAME that Cutourier gets? If 40 seconds is a ton, I don’t know what to call 5 minutes.

    And personally I don’t ever really care about the comparisons between them. As I have said before it is very easy to pick and choose players that are better at something than another player. Part of your shtick is to pick out other top-level Norris contenders and try to somehow run Karlsson down by discussing an aspect of his game that others excel in.

    Just as an example I will go to the bank with Malkin over Spezza all day. Plays with an edge, goes in to high traffic areas with speed (Spezza is a perimeter player if you like it or not) and makes plays at high speed as well while Spezza usually comes to a stop in the offensive zone.

    Hope the Senators keep it rolling against the Habs tonight and that I can tell the difference between the teams with my rose coloured glasses on.

  8. PaV says:

    Love the selective memory here. OD, certain ppl on here hate non-Canadian players – there is no point in trying to prove it otherwise. Its like talking to a wall – but at least the wall has common sense.

  9. Bobby Goodman says:

    I will create context? Is this like a narrative, dialogue or bi-lateral. I call it silly bugger. I will respond but even pictures couldn’t make you understand Dave (actually I believe you do understand but are too stubborn).

    Michalek, the defencive forward is now minus 19? Defencive indeed! Spezza, Dave, has registered over 600 points (over pt per gm) in his career and he is a plus player!

    You are too silly Dave, you can actually write, in good conscience and suggest that Karly hits when he wont even venture into a corner with Tyler Enis? And, I have asked befor the last game for you (anyone) to count how many times Zzzz is the first on the puck in the opposition end, taking a hit battling for the puck and winning one on one battles. It didn’t happen last game and I will suggest it wont happen tonight!

    I am not sure how you measure productivity Dave. What good is getting a lot of points that don’t even cover the goals scored when a player is on the ice? You will turn a bling eye to bad behaviour, poor work ethic, lack of courage and quitting and I don’t knw why! Guess who leads the team in give aways Dave? Guess who leads is 3rd in the minus column and take a guess who is on the ice for most of the goals scrored against the Senators…I will take the mystery out of it all Dave….Karlsson. Oh is points is indeed prodictivity but the idea is to win hockey games.

    You have to be pretending when you bring up the extra 5 minutes per game that Couturier enjoys. I am not comparing his 5 minutes more to Zzzzz’s 40 seconds. They are two competely different animals! Courturier plays 5 more HARD minutes against every other teams best and he kills every penalty Zzzz doesn’t! But, he gets lots of time on the PP, 40 seconds more than Couturier and sometimes more time than those on the Turris line (which I suspect you endorse). I suspect you have not issues with him and the defencive forward Michalek (-9 and -19) starting in OT.

    There will forever be a comparison Dave, THEY WERE TAKE IN THE SAME DRAFT YEAR AND MURRAY SELECTED Zzzzzzz!!!!!!!

    But, it doesn’t matter, you think the future looks good for Zzzz and the Sens were justified taking him 6th overall. I gave you Coururier’s numbers and they should (perhaps not) have convinced you why he was a high draft pick. If you look at what he has done, compared to Zzzz since the draft, there really is no comparison.

    In two years (52 games) in the SEL Zzzz had 10 goals and 12 assists. Remarkable. In ’11-’12 in 9 games with the Sens he was 1 and 1 and minus 3. In the 12-13 season after 23 games he had 4 goals and 7 assists which earned him a PROMOTION! In the following 42 games with the Sens that year (playing with Silfverberg) he had 7 goals and 13 assists. Unspectacular but good enough to garner many headlines and praise for people just like you Dave. In the 13-14 year he started off in Bingo and he had 2 goals and 4 assists in 6 games.

  10. Bobby Goodman says:

    Who do you think he might have played with in Bingo Dave…he didn’t get those unspectacular numbers all on his own! In 37 games this year, Zzzzz has 10 goals and 9 assists and is minus 9 and the crowds go wild! He doesn’t kill penaties. He doesn’t go up against any other the other teams best. He isn’t pjysical. He plays on the periphery and couldn’t create a fart if he had beer and beens for breakfast! When he was riding the pines in the SEL scoring 5g and 8 assists in 26 games, Couturier at the same age, was scoring 13 goals and 14 assists for 27 points in the NHL! This year, playing for a team that was in total dissaray until the Coach was fired, Sean Coutier has 8 goals and 13 assists which primarily came with the new coach who encouraged him to play the way he can! His -3 isn’t so bad when you consider he goes against the Crosbys and Ovenchins and every teams best every night!

    Zzzz gets all the soft assignments. After 52 games in the SEL, Zzzz had 10 goals and 12 assists (good enough to be taken 6th overall?). After 29 games in the AHL he has 6 goals and 18 assists (playing with their best). Others had/have better numbers. And in the NHL after 79 games he has 17 goals and 22 assists. The Organization have done their very best to make him successful but as far as I am concerned, he has had an easy time. The kid can’t stay up on his feet, is slow, wont engage (unless like Karly, its is entirely safe). plays on the perimeter, wont carry the puck, wont forcheck and is first off the ice yet, he gets PP time every game. Go figure.

    Yes Dave, I’ve created a context…it is called cold hard facts. It hurts you and your kind. Celebrate them if you can (and you certainly can) but I wont.

  11. OD99 says:

    As always Bobby you are incapable of any comprehension and are completely devoid of skills to generate a discussion. Thanks for not disappointing. I guess you do feel your responses with childish name calling is a way to engage someone.

    I also love how, as always, you shy away from anything that goes against the imaginary story in your fabricated world.

    There is always a reason for anything good a player you hate does and a reason why a player you love does anything wrong (hint – it isn’t there fault!).

    Your fact are irrelevant as much as you would like them to mean something. You aren’t capable of understanding that players from other countries play in different leagues with different ice and different styles of play so their numbers aren’t even comparable at all. But you go ahead and feel smug because your good Canadian kid posted high point totals in the Q – the league known for having no D at all – and another kid who was always playing against people older than him in a league that puts a premium on defensive play didn’t put up gaudy numbers.

    Here is what I look at right now – the amazing, do it all Couturier has 63 points (25 goals & 38 assists) in 171 NHL games (good for 0.36/gm) while the very terrible and useless Zibanejad has 40 points (17 goals and 23 assists) in 89 NHL games (good for 0.45 pts/gm). All of this while Zibanejad plays 5 minutes less per game…if you really want to think about it Bobby (not that you ever do think) every 3 games Couturier essentially plays one more game than Zibby as he will have accumulated 15 minutes more of ice time (about what Zibby plays nightly). You think Zibanejad is getting a lot of opportunity now? Just wait until his minutes go up and you will really be crying.

    There is also the fact of Michalek having been a + player his entire career until he started to play with…you guessed it! Your main man Spezza. Even with the numbers they were putting up and Michalek’s history of being a good overall player he couldn’t maintain a + with Spezza on his line. This is because Spezza is a defensive liability but one who is given a pass by many because of his skill (or because they are blind).

    Spezza has less points but a bigger – next to his name than Karlsson so in your twisted world I wonder who may be the biggest liability to the Senators? Of course it is Karlsson for many fabricated reasons.

    Maybe your comprehension is so bad because your eyes are failing you? You only seem capable of seeing what you want to see. I see Karlsson hit and play much more physical – I see Karlsson defend and break out with the puck – I see Zibby win battles on the boards and fight for pucks – I see Zibby improving on his FO% and becoming the player the team hoped for when he was drafted as he begins to play more freely (not staying high on the forecheck and hanging back so as not to get caught).

    You see…well whatever your slanted views want you to see to support your preconceived…

  12. Bobby Goodman says:

    Dave…who ever said that Couturier was amazing and who said he does it all? I have only said I would have taken Couturier over Zzzzz! I also said while he plays against all the other teams best (can get points doing that) and he kills every penalty, the Sens don’t have the confidence in Zzzz to do the same.

    You can go and celebrate Zzzz all you want Davey-boy, you are a good soldier and you do exactly what you are told. I wont ever celebrate players who can’t skate, shy away from corners, play on the periphery. I wont celebrate centers who can’t/wont carry the puck. I will forever favor kids who graduate from the CHL over those who spent the full go in NCAA and those who have failed in the SEL!!!!

    I have asked you to identify how many times Zzzz is first to pounce on the puck in the opposition end, afterall, he is a “powerful skater” who can go around or through others”. You haven’t but little Conacher does.

    I am different from you, I think it is a good thing that a kid can score 13 goals in the NHL as an 18 year old. you obviously do not (you prefer 5 goals in the SEL!!??). It’s fine, neither of us will ever be a GM in this league.

    Spezza is a defencive liability and he is the one who is repsonsible for Michaleks -19? Alrighty then. I find it comical you pounce on Rocco because I am not a fan of the way Zzzz plays the game? But, I “hate” Zzzz and you…well you Dave must be a lover.

    Oh you see a lot Davey-boy. You see whatever they tell you to see afterall, you saw Buler as a goal scorer! You saw Daisey the Air Rifle as a Saviour. You saw Campoli, Gilroy, Lundin, Bell and all the other soft so called “puck moving defencemen” as great moves. You loved, Rund’sbad, Silfverberg and Da Costa (because you were told to) and I was a hater because I wanted others. You love Cowen, Gryba and Wiercoch but I said before the season began, I thought they were too slow and that speedy forwards could take advantage of their lack of foot speed. You loved every Coach that was here, you love Camoron. Oh you are a lover alright! You think the Sens have drafted well since their arrival even though only Karlsson and Smith have panned out. You, Dave-boy, are content with mediocrity. Should the Sens miss the playoffs this year (I am one of only a few who said they would be awful and fail) it would mean that the team would have missed the post season 3 times, bounce rudely in the first round twice (after squeaking in) and bounced rudley twice in the 2nd round. This to you Dave is wonderful!

    You don’t question anything, you are just happy to be a member of the “team”. Hey, if it sustains you, great! You have a love hate relationship with Spezza (you are imature enough to believe because I don’t think Zzzz is good you amp up venom with the Captain (awful but…predictable and consistent).

    Yes Dave, my eyesight is going so to is my comprehension. I cannot comprehend someone can be so silly as you.

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