Ganny River salmon getting no respect!

- September 12th, 2012

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 (Image of dead salmon wasting away along shores of the Ganaraska river)

The fall salmon run has been a good one this year in Port Hope. Fish have been travelling through the town’s fish ladder by the hundreds, and hoards of fishermen, some with no common sense or respect, are right there to intercept them.

Our friend Chessy is a resident of Port Hope and an active participant in monitoring trout and salmon activity along the river. This year he’s noticing a rather disturbing trend… 

Anglers just tossing their catch along the shore after stripping the fish clean of their eggs.

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Not only are river anglers casting huge salmon aside like garbage, there are pop bottles, coffee cups and other sorts of litter strewn all along the river banks.

“People are catching salmon, gutting them and taking eggs and leaving the carcass behind” Said Chessy  ”My son kicked in 43 dead Chinooks back into the river that were gutted or dead from guys who don’t take the time to revive the fish”

“My son and i even pulled 2 fish from the local bargain shop parking lot that were gutted and placed in a pot hole so they would not be seen”

Now I ask you, is this the sort of behaviour anyone should be proud of??

Chessy goes on…

 ”The local parks department finally hauled several hundred pounds of fish guts to the dump from our local FREE fish cleaning station. Some of the fish were whole (12) that were stripped of eggs and left in the cleaning station for the town to clean up and get rid of…”

“It is so bad that our local police are now coming to calls and taking info to pass on or charge those when caught. We actually had people netting at 2 pm in the afternoon on a long week end with dozens of others fishing and watching them do it .

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(This photo depicts someone, with blatant disregard for the law, netting salmon on the Ganny in broad daylight. Photo taken Wednesday at 2 :00 PM)

As Chessy puts it…”this just goes to show the mentality of some people ..”

Pretty sad if you ask me and not the sort of activity to shed any of us in a very good light.

 

Outdoorsguy

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35 comments

  1. chessy says:

    Thanks jeff for bringing this to light… i am glad you only posted the “good photos” . people you don’t realize the fish and the different stages of decomposition of these fish .. when the wind blows the right direction the town stinks

  2. Aiyaz says:

    I heard the Police officers at the Ganaraska rivers at Port Hope don’t care about this behaviour and the illegal fishing (snagging) going on because they say that the MNR does not care either. I’ve had several sources cite this same knowledge. I believe the public will continue to act this way as long as our governing bodies and authorities continue to allow this.

  3. Christian says:

    Each year i go to the ganny for salmon fishing (catch & release) and i see it each time, fish on the shore of the river dead whit open body just for eggs it’s not acceptable.

  4. alain says:

    moi je suis belge et je vais aussi pêcher sur la garanaska mais quand je vois cela, je me dis qu au Canada vous avez la chance d encore avoir du saumon, ici en Belgique on essaye de le ré introduire,car il a completement dissparu.
    Je fais 6600 km pour le pecher , photo et le relâcher ! prenez soin du saumon !!!!!

  5. alain says:

    I’m Belgian and I also fish on Garanaska but when I see this, I think that in Canada you have the chance to still have salmon. Here in Belgium, we’re try to re-introduce these fish, because they completely gone.

    I travel 6600 km to fish, take a photo and then release!

    take care of the salmon!!

  6. Jason says:

    Close the river simple as that… Or easier, a gang of conservation officers handing out 300-500$ tickets.

  7. Herman Baguss says:

    I think one thing in general would help, get the names of these criminals and publicly admonish them – as far as I’m concerned there is far too little publicity of events such as these to reduce their occurance.
    If their family friends, and co-workers would know, I think it would help to deter others…
    Friggin’ numbskulls….

  8. jeff.morrison says:

    If you guys think you’re upset now, check out the latest photo I just added!

    Outdoorsguy

  9. chessy says:

    the new photo was taken yesterday. behind the lcbo store her excuse was “we did not know”. it is every body from every country from every age doing this . The ganaraska is not the only river this is going on at and this river does not require anything special. All rivers should be treated the same by enforcement but there is so few of the in the area it is horrible

  10. johan says:

    Forgive me for not getting something here, are these fish not edible or are these morons just taking the eggs to use as bait? I am finding it hard to understand why someone would even do this.

  11. chessy says:

    the sale of “eggs” has grown in the few years ever since the mnr passed a law stated the stores could only buy it from licensed hatcheries, the black market has grown considerably, also guys use it for chum for white fish they can use up to a 5 gallon bucket of eggs easy is it right no is it legal to chum yes. also it is illegal to leave your carcasses in the water or on shore within the high water mark and low water mark

  12. GPG says:

    This is terrible. Thanks for sharring this info Chessy. What are the regulations for salmon fishing? Are the regs part of the reason why they are not keeping the tasty fish?

  13. mike says:

    every year, the exact same time of year….exact same place every year. every year NOTHING is done about it from the MNR or OPP….its completely disgusting to watch and it makes me sick in the stomach.

  14. Herman Baguss says:

    Where the H*** are the CO’s?????????????

  15. Hunting mom says:

    This is shocking. I don’t understand why the Ministry is not doing something about this. Lord knows they have all the time and resources in the world to patrol our hunting trails, even in the winter on expensive snow machines. Perhaps they should redirect some resources to the more pressing issue in Port Hope.

  16. chessy says:

    This is just not going on only at the Ganaraska river apparently this is going on at allot of other rivers , We have one CO and he does from newcastle to brighton ontario to north to almost peterbough that is allot of water and that includes rice lake , They are so understaffed from what i have been told it is not fare to blame the co . something has to change like give the police all the powers of a co or hire deputies to enforce the minor violations

  17. Iggy says:

    @Chessy
    congrats on the win, I won the Tinks package a couple years ago, great package

    QUOTE:Herman Baguss says:

    September 13, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Where the H*** are the CO’s?????????????

    There is only one left and he didn’t have any money left to put gas in his truck

  18. johan says:

    Hunting mom, I haven’t seen a CO in years so I just don’t think there are that many of them any more. I see the Americans pulling bass off the nests every spring but I have yet to see a CO on my lake in the 10 years I have been there. Not once.
    Maybe we, as responsible law abiding citizens, should start posting pictures of offenders on Flakebook or videos on Youtube. Sadly enough it seems like that is the only way to generate any interest these days.

    Certainly not much sense calling the MNR or the OPP that’s for sure.

  19. chessy says:

    @ iggy Thanks. on the win

    Instead of the provicial and federal government giving 1.7 million to a conservation group maybe they should spend that on a few dozen CO . we have absoultly no enforcement any more not like years ago..

  20. matt says:

    hey does anyone remember what happened in westport a few years back , similar thing pochers robbing a fish sanctuary on nightly basis MNR does nothing as usual and locals decide to take things into their own hands … didnt go well for some “poachers” matter of fact i think a few went for a cold swim into the westport pond ..lol

    Johan your certainly right about not wasting your time calling the MNR ….

  21. Hunting mom says:

    I don’t understand why I am constantly seeing conservation officers in my area ( wmu 58). One weekend last winter we were setting our trail cam and we saw the same conservation officers at least three times over the course of the weekend. They were driving bright shiny new snowmobiles.

  22. Iggy says:

    @matt
    wern’t the poacher non born Canadians, and the MNR was afraid of the racial angle, and if I’m not mistaken, some of the vigilantes were charged

  23. Iggy says:

    Chessy, 1.7 mil might get you 6 CO’s for one year

  24. chessy says:

    @ Hunting mom maybe the mnr does not care about the salmon after all the rumors i have heard it does not surprise me .. but if you ever made a mistake in tagging a deer or not wearing proper orange your a$$ would be grass but kill fish by the dozens and it is ok

  25. matt says:

    ya iggy i think it escalated into a “racial ” problem .. not sure about the what kind of charges were laid on the vigilantes but you can be sure the poachers werent charged ..

  26. matt says:

    here’s a link jeff not sure if you can post it or not , but here goes

    http://www.review-mirror.com/regionalnews/illegalfishingarchive.html#10

  27. chessy says:

    @ matt. the ofah took a hit on that . a person used there letter head and their position on the ofah to write a letter and said if you see a person of certain ethnic back ground ask to see there license .. the ofah was reprimanded by the human rights committee and now has to post a yearly Racal statement

  28. Iggy says:

    I’m changing the subject Jeff I know, but I just couldn’t help myself
    ===========================================================================
    I got two letters in the mail this week, both envelopes had

    ONTARIO
    Outdoor Card Centre
    PO Box 9000
    Peterborough Ont

    printed on the outside
    and both envelopes had advertising in them for Ontario Out of Doors
    and Outdoor Canada magazines

    just wondering what this advertising has to do with The Outdoor Card Centre
    The Outdoor Card Centre is part of the Ontario Ministry of Natural Resourses
    where you get your hunting and fishing cards from

  29. Iggy says:

    sent a letter off to an MPP
    ===============================================
    Last week in the mail, I got two envelopes from the Outdoors Card Centre
    an Ontario government department that issues outdoor cards for hunters and fishermen
    I opened both, and inside both envelopes were advertisements for Ontario Out Of Doors magazine and Outdoor Canada magazine
    Normally I would have thrown both in the recycle bin without even opening them
    but I think I was tricked into opening them by the letterhead on the envelope that clearly said
    Outdoor Card Centre

    My question, is this right
    what’s next, will Sears be allowed to post advertising with Canada Revenue Agency envelopes
    I understand that these two magazines paid the Outdoor Card Centre to stuff the envelopes
    but clearly they should not be allowed to use envelopes that I the taxpayer paid for
    and even if the reimbursed the government for the envelopes, having
    The Outdoor Card Centre letterhead on the envelopes for commercial use is wrong

    ================================================================================

    am I wrong on this?

  30. g forte says:

    One solution would be to simply ban the use of roe! This a highly unethical method for catching steelhead. It is time for attitudes to start changing. For all you centerpinners,there are many other very effective options to drift under your floats. Yes you may not have as many hookups, but so what! Steelhead are a precious resource that deserve more respect than someone with a float rod and roe bags walking into a hole and hooking every fish in it and bragging about all the hook ups they had. Hooking fish on roe is easy and it does not make you a good angler! By the way the use of roe is banned in most every country in the world that is known for trout or salmon fishing! It seems that in Ontario it is all about numbers. I run into guys all the time who grumble because they only had 10 or fifteen hookups in a day. Really guys how many fish do you need to catch before you can say you are having a good day! Also taking roe from the hens is really ridiculous when you think about it. That roe you steal from those hens are steelhead that will never be born further having a negative impact on the resource. Steelhead are noble precious resource that deserve more respect and it is time for attitudes to change!

  31. Kam says:

    Well another year of ganny fishing is approaching and I’m sure will be seeing the same bad habits as stated above. I will personally contact authorities if I see any illegal activities when it comes to catching salmon this year. Especially when people are doing it just for the eggs. Hopefully the authorities step it up a bit this year and throw out some fines. There is no excuse for stupidity

  32. chessy says:

    port hope police have been enforcing parts of the fish and wildlife act. and have been walking river in plain clothes .. they are giving no warnings just fines… if your in the area and see a violation call 905 885 8141 the will come

  33. jeff.morrison says:

    Hey Chessy, that is great news! Hopefully they are putting a stop to people throwing dead fish everywhere too…sounds like things are changing for the better, Ièm glad to hear it.

    Outdoorsguy

  34. Jim says:

    Get a grip you bunch of ninny’s.

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