Long gun registry and frontline police

- August 25th, 2010

  longgun

(Photo of Outdoors Guy with a fine looking long gun)

Man, who would have believed we’d still be discussing long gun registry after all these years, but here we are. 

And with the cancellation of the beleaguered gun registry finally on the horizon, out of the blue we hear from the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police; speaking out in favour of saving it?

Hello?

I couldn’t believe it when I heard. Obviously there is a lot more going on here than we know. 

Even a poll done recently by Edmonton Police Const. Randy Kuntz showed that 92% of the 2,631 front-line police who participated, felt the long gun registry was not an effective crime fighting tool.

Of course we knew that already.

Can someone please explain to me how this is possible?

It reminds me of when the Public Service Alliance of Canada (PSAC) union head spoke out during an election, in support of the Bloc Quebecois. If you can believe it, this woman actually had the gall to encourage union members to vote Bloc. Fortunately common sense reined and free-thinking members ignored her plea.

My guess is the same will happen with Bill C-68, and it will be put out to pasture where it belongs, regardless of what the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police has to say.

Outdoorsguy

(Bonus points for anyone who can tell me what kind of rifle that is)

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68 comments

  1. jeff.morrison says:

    Iggy, as far as I can tell…it has to do with word choice…ie…certain words get ‘flagged’ while other words do not…don’t take it personally, though, it has nothing to do with you..

    And if you (or anyone else) sees your comments sitting there ‘waiting to be approved’..dont read anything into it, it doesnt mean a team of CIA experts are pouring over your message, it simply means I’m away from my PC.

    Outdoorsguy

  2. chessy says:

    Dr. Jones and the members of the ethics committee were in Montreal in August for two days of meetings around the CACP’s( Canadian Association of Police Chiefs) annual conference when they learned about Taser’s sponsorship and that of others, including a joint Bell Mobility-CGI-Group Techna donation of $115,000, which went toward the purchase of 1,000 tickets at $215 each to a Celine Dion concert on Aug. 25.

  3. chessy says:

    ok i have been doing some reading and looking .. i found some information on another site and thought i would do my own research as to make it “my own ”
    this is the website the chiefs of police have on the gun regestry …..

    “TRUTHSANDMYTHS.CA” is registered.

    Domain Name: truthsandmyths.ca (3412626)
    Registered: 2010/04/15
    Last Modified:
    Expires: 2011/04/15

    Registrant: Toronto Police Service (53968)
    Pedja Ljubomirovic pedja.ljubomirovic@torontopolice.on.ca (77772)
    +1 (416) 808-7106 FAX +1 (416) 808-7102

    Technical: pedja.ljubomirovic@torontopolice.on.ca (77773)
    ns1.easydns.com 64.68.192.10
    ns2.easydns.com 72.52.2.1
    remote1.easydns.com 205.234.220.154
    remote2.easydns.com 209.200.187.4

    are the police alowed to be involved in politics … im sure some one on here knows :)

  4. Iggy says:

    send this information and question to your local Conservative MP’s, I’m sure they’d love to know, and would make some back room waves, better yet send it to the MP that brought in the bill

    It sickening when you see the Chiefs of Police, fighting in back rooms against the very government that has stood with them on almost every issue. Just goes to prove they are only out for themselves and maybe it’s time for this government to back off some of their law and order advances

  5. chessy says:

    what kills me iggy is that the toronto police service is pay for the chief of police stuff…oops should have said the tax payers of the city that runs the country toronto

  6. Iggy says:

    Chessy, send that info off to the Cons

  7. mcdan says:

    I like the scenario where they are about to a do drug bust so they check the registry to see if there is guns in house so the bust can be planned accordingly. What, if there isn’t any guns in the house do they just ring the door bell usually. Come on give me a break! The other one I liked where the kid was “gonna slash throats with a knife” he had no guns, but I wonder if they took all the knives out of the house.

    I will definitely send this web site to my MP

    Thanks for the work chessy!

  8. Iggy says:

    Chessy, did you send that information yet??????

  9. chessy says:

    who do i send it to .. im sure they are aware of who owns/runs the web site… who o i send it to ..

  10. chessy says:

    sent the toronto police service a email.. see if the respond

  11. Iggy says:

    send it to the Conservative Party of Canada and any local MP that is a Conservative

  12. Iggy says:

    don’t assume they know, a lot of these guys have never even seen a gun before, they lead a very sheltered life

  13. jeff.morrison says:

    Well, not to get you guys going even more about the government, but in case you haven’t heard as of midnight tonight, the ON Gov’t is slashing our automobile insurance by 50%…

    You may not even notice it happening…until one day you have a serious accident.

    Thats nice eh..and we’re already paying on average 25% more for insurance than the rest of Canada!!

    Check it out, only if you wanna piss yourself off:

    http://www.ottawasun.com/news/canada/2010/09/01/15210091.html

    Outdoorsguy

  14. chessy says:

    thanks for the bucket of gas jeff

  15. mcdan says:

    Sent Pierre Polievre and conservative party of canada an e-mail with that web site with some comments, lets get this rolling guys. gotta go i think stephen’s at the door…..or is it the police chief??

  16. mcdan says:

    Another article in Ottawa sun today written by Bryn Weese “top cops don’t see eye to eye on gun registry” Ottawa police chief Vern White, takes issue with registry advocates- including top brass saying the registry’s accessed 11,000 times a day. ” I don’t buy that line” adding most of the hits to the registry are automaticly generated. ( like iggy stated earlier)
    Calgary police chief Rick Hanson told parliment’s public safety committee this spring he thinks the registry is flawed and fails to tackle th real issues of gun violence. ” no dirrect links have been made between the exicting gun registry and the behavior of criminals” B.C. top cop, Bob Rich an urbanite with no hunting background also thinks the registry misses the real gun problems plaguing his community. BUT Mark pugash spokesman for toronto police chief Bill Blair said it is only one important tool to tackle gun violence. Dissenting voices ,he said ,don’t quash their argument that the registry is good value for money at 4 million a year and is an important crime fighting tool. Now my question to throw out. Figure the police chief in Toronto is the leading force in support for keeping the gun registry in some ignorant way to try and keep the peace in his crime riddelled city? Three police chiefs have spoken out against it now, hopefully more will very soon.

  17. Ted Reid says:

    I have not hunted or even fired a firearm for over 18 years. I have two shotguns and a 30.30 rifle which used to hunt with. I have never commited a crime with a gun nor will I ever. I made the mistake many years ago of registering my hunting guns. They were actually my Dad’s guns passed on to me. He passed away in 1998 and the guns were at my parents home. I moved to another province and since I did not plan to hunt I arranged to have them stored at my best friend/hunting buddies house. Apparently my gun owners registraion had expired in 2009 and I was unaware until March 2011 at 9:00pm on a Sunday night when I received a phone call from a provincial police officer telling me I was in violation of a criminal code for not renewing my licence. I nicely told him the truth and he responded with I’m in violation of another criminal code since the guns were not in my possesion. I have been trying to have them transferred to my friends possession licence but he was unaware that his had also expired and had to take a course to renew his license which of course takes some time. In the past two weeks (this is June 2011) I have received two messages on my answering machine upon returning from work from the same officer telling me that they are prepared to take this to the next level (whatever that might be) if it is not resolved right away. Why am I being treated like a criminal? I used to be a hunter, my guns are in very safe hands and I am being harrassed.
    Way to go gun registry and officer nothing else to do but harass innocent people. Go catch the criminals and leave us law abiding citizens alone!!!! There are shootings in the cities everyday. Go try and catch them or is that too much work. I guess we are easy prey for the lazy.
    It makes me sick!!!

  18. swampdogger says:

    Well, i hope the registry get’s thrown out real shortly, so it does not cause anymore grief for law abiding citizens.

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