Wandering and wondering about North Bay

- December 2nd, 2012

Barring the totally unexpected, the Ontario Hockey League will return to North Bay effective the 2013-14 season.

But as the Brampton Brampton prepares to relocate to North Bay in what is a virtual certainty, what is far less certain is the future of the Northern Ontario Jr. Hockey League in the Gateway City.

The NOJHL has been a part of North Bay since the OHL left town in 2002. But with the OHL set to return to North Bay in 2013-14 by way of Brampton, what happens to the Trappers of the NOJHL?

Rumours are rampant in North Bay about where the Trappers may end up in 2013-14, with Espanola, Haileybury, Huntsville and two or three northern Michigan towns being mentioned as possible landing spots.

But before we get into that, there could be legal ramifications tied to the City of North Bay, which apparently was negotiating a new, three-year Memorial Gardens lease with the NOJHL Trappers while at the same time trying to lure the OHL Battalion to town.

The facts are that the City of North Bay announced a new three-year lease agreement with the NOJHL Trappers that was signed on September 17, only to announce its deal to move the OHL Battalion to town on November 5. And North Bay mayor Al McDonald has publicly stated that he first began negotiations with the OHL Battalion back in June of this year.

And while it’s true that the City of North Bay has a clause in its agreement with the NOJHL Trappers that allowed it to bring the OHL to town if the opportunity were to arise, there are allegations of misrepresentation and not bargaining in good faith that inside sources say are being prepared by a North Bay litigator on behalf of the NOJHL Trappers.

A City of North Bay employee — speaking on condition of anonymity, for obvious reasons, told me that the Trappers have a strong case for what is called “fraudulent misrepresentation”, a serious allegation that if proved, would be contrary to the Municipal Corporations Act.

“The Trappers have a case and the City knows it,” the employee told me. “I would suspect that (the Trappers) lawyer is all over it.”

Trappers owner Tim Clayden, when asked if he was contemplating going after the City of North Bay for damages, offered a polite “no comment.” Clayden added that his primary concern is completing the 2012-13 NOJHL season in North Bay and playing host to next spring’s Dudley Hewitt Cup, Central Canada playdowns that are slated for Memorial Gardens.

But the City of North Bay employee admitted to me that Clayden “would appear to be in good position to sue the City for damages and any relocation fees” should the Trappers leave North Bay and move elsewhere effective the 2013-14 season.

The City of North Bay, ideally, would like the Trappers to move from the 4,000-seat Memorial Gardens to the much-smaller, City-run West Ferris Arena, which has a seating capacity of about 700.

However, West Ferris Arena is not currently suitable to house an NOJHL team as it is in need of major upgrade.

WHAT ABOUT ESPANOLA?

Clayden and the current Trappers franchise might well end up in the Spanish River town of Espanola come the 2013-14 season.

Espanola, a gritty community with a population of about 5,300, has been home to failed junior hockey teams before.

But progressive Espanola mayor Mike Lehoux and Colin Wilson of the town’s Economic Development department have been looking to lure another junior hockey team their way and a proven operator like Trappers owner Clayden would be a potentially-good partner to team up with.

Espanola is home to a a modern, well-kept arena complex that is less than 15 years old and could comfortably house an NOJHL franchise.

Espanola is about 120 miles from North Bay and about 45 miles west of Sudbury. Espanola could well form a rabid North Shore rivalry with current NOJHL teams in Elliot Lake and Blind River.

So how might all of this play out?

What could potentially happen is that Clayden gets relocation fees from the City of North Bay to move to Espanola for the 2013-14 season and that the City of North Bay appeases the NOJHL by upgrading West Ferris Arena and allows a new local ownership to maintain an NOJHL franchise in North Bay.

That way, all parties — the City of North Bay, Clayden and the Trappers, and the NOJHL — are winners.

The City of North Bay moves forward with the OHL at Memorial Gardens and gets an NOJHL team to play out of West Ferris, Clayden gets to be the big game in town in Espanola, and the NOJHL adds another franchise in increasing its membership to eight teams.

Does all of this sound too good to be true?

Depends on whether or not the City of North Bay wants the legal headache that litigation would most likely cause.

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96 comments

  1. Cassio says:

    Wow, we finally get the storey. I knew I could count on good old RR to get to the nitty gritty. I thought from the start that City of NB was showing no respect at all to the Trappers or the NOJHL.

  2. NBT1975 says:

    Espanola has the rink and Tim Clayten has the hockey expertise to make this work. City of NB would be wise to do right by Clayten, Dawson, the Trappers & the NOJHL! Good work Randy to bring this to light!

  3. North Shore Hockey says:

    Great article RR!
    It sure does appear that the Trappers Owner may have Mayor McCheese and the City of North Bay by the balls! All I am hoping for is what is best for our League the NOJHL and that the Trappers dont get screwed as lets not forget that the NOJHL was good for North Bay for 10 years while there was no OHL and the trappers do not deserve to get cast aside and treated like sh-t by the City now that they are acting like big-shots because they have the OHL again. What is fair should be fair…for ALL parties of concern! Well stated RR – a good piece of getting this story out there! I am happy for North Bay for getting the OHL back but that doesnt mean that they can just treat the NOJHL & Trappers like yesterdays brekfast! The Trappers have been paying the City rent for the last 10 years and deserve better!

  4. hockeyguy 02 says:

    is it just a coincidence that major mcdonald cut ties with the lakers and now we have an ohl team. i dont think so. he left the lakers for one reason and that is because he knew there was a chance of ohl coming here. as far as trappers moving to espanola, let me tell you, i came here from espanola and was involved in hockey when i was there. it will not be an easy market there. that would be 4 teams that are very close in proximity. majority of espanola players came in from sudbury because of schooling. if im not mistaken there is not even midget level hockey in espanola any longer so the odds of any kids being local would be slim to none. i also heard a rumour that the city of northbay asked the trappers to host the dudley hewitt at west ferris. what a complete joke they are to even expect that. good luck to trappers wherever they end up and thanks for the entertainment you have and continue to provide us hockey fans

  5. LeJib says:

    If anyone still had any lingering doubts about the political favouritism in North Bay hockey circles, the past weekend’s coverage should dispel those doubts.
    The Trappers played at home on Thursday night (a 7-1 win)and were afforded a grand total of 8 column-inches of coverage (5 of which were ‘pre-game’) on our local “sports pages”. I have not included the photos, but I am including the text of the captions.
    The Lakers played at home on Friday night (a 3-2 loss in the first of 2 weekend games) and enjoyed 95 column-inches of coverage (again, not including photos).
    These are the combined totals of Thursday, Friday and Saturday’s pages. I’m sure there will be more extensive coverage of Saturday’s Lakers game in the Monday edition.
    Seems to me there’s a bit of an imbalance here! In a post last season, I noted that the Lakers received disproportionately more attention than the Trappers, by margins varying from 2-1 all the way up to 10-1. This past weekend saw about 12 times as much space given to Lakers efforts, with more to follow on Monday, I’m sure.
    And just to make one thing clear, I’ve nothing against the Lakers organization whatsoever, just the political morass that results in the Trappers being treated so shabbily. And yes, Virginia, I know that ‘education’ is a sacred cow, but that does not justify these inadequacies in our local newspaper.
    We will continue as Traps fans, whatever the future may hold. We just hope their treatment by this city will be honest and honourable.

  6. Dave Williams says:

    Randy, the whole post that you have written is solely based in your speculation. Anyone in business knows that you do not open your negotiations with every party involved. If the City of North Bay were to discuss contracts with parties that are not negotiating, they would be in contempt. If the Trappers had a clause written into their agreement that changes their deal if an OHL team was brought into the city, it seems the city had done its due diligence by ensuring such a clause was in the agreement. I am sure that if the Trappers lawyer is worth the diploma on his wall, he would advise the Trappers to cut their losses and move on.

  7. Trapperfan says:

    Job well done RR. I agree LeJib the Trappers are a winning hockey club in town and the coverage really is scant to say the least. The Lakers are a mediocore team this year and the coverage is more for sure. They too will be covered less when the OHL comes to town. Winning or not these two teams will be cast aside and considered 2nd rate. Kinda sad after all the hours and the hard work by many good people will fade away.

  8. Randy Russon says:

    Dave,

    Of course the story I have written is based on speculation. At least partly. If it wasn’t, I would not have used the word “could” on several occasions within the text.

    You act as if you are telling me something I don’t know.

    As for what the Trappers lawyer may or may not advise the team, are you in a position to say what that may be? I doubt it.

    At any rate, we will find out in due time how all of this “speculation” plays out.

    Regards,

    Randy

  9. Dave Williams says:

    Randy, as someone who has studied contract law, the Trappers likely have no leverage whatsoever. I would imagine that with a provision written into the contract that the city gives presedence to an OHL club, if the oppertunity arose, there is no case at all for “fradulant misrepresentation”. The city has been openly trying to attract the OHL back for years. The Trappers have always had this clould over them and their lawyer must have known it.
    Normally I look forward to reading your stories about the NOJHL, but I feel on this particular week, you did not have enough material for an actual story and were forced to submit what will turn out to be a non issue, just to fill the space.
    I am disappointed in the lack of research and originality this week. You are normally so much better.

  10. Armand5 says:

    Don’t know what legal recourse the Trapper’s have, since every time they renewed their lease, the city’s right to pursue an O club was always clearly in there. Your legal counsel has the duty of pointing that out, so how can you claim damages when you knew about that going in?

  11. IROFAN says:

    Took in the Sat night game in Cochrane and was satisfied with the
    results….Was nice to see our New NOHA Rep Dean Belisle making sure
    things ran smoothly.

  12. sigs2012 says:

    On NOJHL page:

    Marco Lizotte – Sudbury Nickel Barons

    Dec 1, 2012 – Instigator (2nd offence) – GM36 – 2 games + $300 fine
    . .

    Simon DesRosiers – Abitibi Eskimos

    Dec 1, 2012 – Third man in the fight – GM32 – 2 games.
    . .

    Marco Lizotte – Sudbury Nickel Barons

    Dec 1, 2012 – Instigator (2nd offence) – GM36 – 2 games.

  13. Randy Russon says:

    Dave Williams,

    Your disappointment in me notwithstanding, my initial response to you will stand.

    I will add, however, that your stated “contract law” education aside, you might want to consult a dictionary when making future posts.

    In fact, a simple spellcheck will lead you to discover that you incorrectly spelled three words in your previous post.

    Regards,

    Randy

  14. BayBruiser says:

    Just noticed that Soo picked up Yan Kalashnikov. Does he have dual citizenship? I thought the NOJHL did not allow European imports and he is from Belarus? Has that rule changed?

    Also Sigs. That is the second time in 2 games that Lizotte has ‘jumped’ an opposing player and started throwning punches. Each time he received an Instigator and Fighting. Both times, the opposing player received NO fighting major. Both times an opposing player (who threw NO punches; only tried to pull this moron off of their player) received a two game susp while Lizotte received only 1 game! Comtois also received a 5 and game for a viscous slash with less than half the game remaining and received NO suspension.

    I would think that a player can’t be a third man in a fight if there IS NO fight.

    Please explain your extremely poor and weak decisions Mr. Mazzuca.

  15. BayBruiser says:

    And to boot, Mr. Mazzuca had NO problems handing a player a 4-game suspension for mouthing off to an official that was doing an incredibly poor job.

  16. kong says:

    Yes how can Desrosiers warrant a 2 game suspension for trying to stop a nut bar from laying a beating on a fellow player that has no intention of dropping the gloves. Give Lizotte the extra 2 games please.

  17. Bruin19 says:

    Randy quit being so senstive
    Your now pointing out the spelling mistakes. Lol
    The guy is offer his view nothing more.
    This blog is not our source of income.

    Please be gentle on me:)

  18. Bruin19 says:

    Randy, I am glad you made everyone or those that read this blog about how the Trappers have come to feel like second class citizens. They are a good organization and do deserve better. That being said the OHL will bring much more revenue and in this day and age sadly the almighty dollar is what is important. That is a very sad truth. On the bright side some town will be lucky to get this good organization. Hope i didnt spell anything wrong.:)

  19. Bruin19 says:

    Dam i guess i didnt hit submit comment. It was a good one. My goof. Good job bringing light to the North Bay situation. Great year in the NOJHL. Lets talk hockey and less politics.

    On that note, what happened in Cochrane. Thought that game would be a little better then 7 zip. Thought the same about the Goldminers losing 5 zip to the Beavers.

  20. Tommy Hawk says:

    RR

    question for Dave as he seems to be in the “contract” know

    Dave, are you saying that it is ok for a City/Town to mislead a potential partner in negotiations in order to secure a multi year deal, as perhaps seemingly in the Trappers case here, securing the 3 year deal with the Trappers just in case the City’s deal with the OHL did not come thru ?

    Understanding that is where the bad/good faith and misrepresenting comes into play ?

    Is there no repercussions for presenting misleading statements made during contract negotiations in good faith

    It doesn’t look like non-disclosure in an issue, in play is the good faith or lack of and misrepresentation the way RR points out ?

    just asking Dave, is ok for a Municipality to misrepresent or mislead a potential partner ?

  21. Bruin19 says:

    Sorry everyone. My second comment had no relevance towards this article.
    Lets listen to that scholar Peachy because he has lots of relevance towards this blog.
    Oh farewell blog! Thats if my comments make cut!

  22. Bruin19 says:

    Tommy Hawk
    I agree with the part of North Bay council/ town misleading the Trappers but i dont believe they didnt check with legal council before proceeding with Brampton. Whether it is right or wrong i am sure they would of had covered that with there legal council.

  23. foober40 says:

    Regarding the situation in North Bay . This is a council that thought it was better to have a university team that plays less than half the games as the Trappers as their main tenant in the Gardens . Still don’t see how fewer games and less ice time sold equals a better situation , even if the hockey may be of a slightly higher caliber . In the end , we all know this will be settled by lawyers and possibly a judge , if indeed there is an action filed . I doubt that anybody here regardless of how educated they might be has full knowledge of the legal workings that went on between the parties involved . If Randy says there may be a legal filing then there may be . Then again there may not . Lets spend our time talking about the play of the teams in the NOJ and how much more balanced the league is becoming . Better games , great young players and a hosting of the Dudley Hewitt should make for some wonderful exchanges of opinions on hockey . Leave the politics of North Bay to the coffee shop folk .

  24. LeJib says:

    Have to agree, ‘foober40′, although I think my comments re local coverage (and lack thereof) can readily be taken in a non-political context.
    As for you RR, I have read and reread your blog, and can find not a single comment that is not factual, be it speculative or otherwise. Keep up the good work. It’s the best resource that we have for NOJHL info and knowledgeable opinion.
    Must also agree with ‘BayBruiser’ regarding some of the suspensions that are being handed out (or not). There seems to be a complete absence of consistency, and the ‘punishment’ often does not appear to fit the ‘crime’. Maybe some publicly offered explanations from the league office would help here.
    Anyway, it’s so good to see the NOJHL developing into a much-better-balanced and generally more competitive league. I’ll withold any further comments re Sudbury (pursuant to my very complimentary post early in the season), until we see how they stack up from here in. Chimo!

  25. kong says:

    Here’s what happen in the game in Cochrane. The Barons started the game like a team on fire they spent the first 5 min in the Eskis end but unlike other games they were not able to score the first goal. Eskis new goalie held the fort till the Eskis finally got a few shots at the other end. After the Eskis scored 2 fast goals it was game over as the I.F.s boy’s could do not wrong and Suds no right. New goalie for the Eskis was very impressive.

  26. Sigs_2012 says:

    Staff near SUD penalty box could distinctly hear lizotte making threats to Eskis. In no uncertain terms. When his penaltynwas over, he was like a man posses and on the war path. i observed him coming out of the penalty box, run over at least one opponent who didn’t have the puck(no penalty), then lock onto his designated target. Did not see who he went after as view was blocked but his intention was clear.
    This player was a loose cannon in Cochrane and being that this is not his first such infraction, someone ought to have a heart to heart with this angry young man.
    While by the book I understand the 3rd man in rule, if fighting is simply not to be tolerated or let to run its course then the linesmen have to be in there a lot faster. In Desrosiers’ shoes I would not have stood by and watched either as a gorilla layed it on to one of my (smaller,non-combatant) ‘mates.

  27. eskisfan says:

    I think the whole rink was rather surprised it was a third man in call, roughing maybe, but it was quite obvioulsy to all that Desrosier was not trying to fight, but rather do the ref’s job of protecting a player who did not want to fight a giant. Had either of the Eskimos been throwin anything that resembled punches, I could understand, but that wasn’t the case at all. Too bad as the Eskis will lose thier top offensive D for the first two games of a tough roadie where whatever team doesn’t bring thier “A” game to any rink, loses!

  28. Dave Williams says:

    @Tommy Hawk, I am sure that the Trappers had a clause in their contract that would defer their status if the city could secure an OHL club. I cannot see how that is deception or misrepresentation.
    The fact is, I am of the opinion that RR wrote an article with no factual basis this week. I have been an avid reader and for the most part respect RR’s musings, however, this week RR was lacking of any real story in my opinion.

  29. hockeyguy 02 says:

    i agree eskisfan. although i wasnt at the game i was playing it out in my head as i kept checking for updates on the website. this player did the same thing here in northbay just a week ago. when or if sudbury falls behind,its just a matter of time that something of this nature is going to happen. here in the bay he also chose to pick on a non combatant and it was clear what his intention was. although a rule is a rule(third man in), the referee must have seen it, as everyone in the building seen what happened. in a case such as this, im sure the referee can use his desretion as to what the call should be. if the third man in has dropped his gloves is one thing, but when he doesnt,then in my opinion,then maybe a roughing and maybe a 10 min misconduct would be enough. as it stands the 3rd man in gets more punishment then the guy who caused the whole thing in the first place. also i am wondering,at some point,does it not also fall on the hands of the coach to some extent?. i would think that with some sort of team discipilinary action may help prevent this from occuring and maybe this does happen,but i certainly havent seen that happen thus far. the suspension seems also unclear. can someone clerify was it is?

  30. eaglefan says:

    Dave,
    You said it…’musings’. That is what I read when I read RR’s story. It is just as possible that North Bay City Council overlooked the clause you’re referring to. It was a ‘stretch’ a couple of years ago to think North Bay would see the Trappers return at any time in the future.

    RR is making educated guesses (what ifs) about possible scenarios. We will all find out soon enough. In the meantime, speculations are OK. Especially, if they make some sort of sense. The article is written from a point of view stance, not news.

  31. Mike says:

    This is the same goon who ran the BR goalie THREE times a couple of months ago. The last time, he almost put him through the boards. BR ended up losing two good defensemen to suspension because they HAD to defend their goalie from this IDIOT.

  32. Stix601 says:

    The linesmen stood by during the Lizotte / Poulin-Roy atercation and only decided to jump in after Desrosier did. My queston is – why did the 2 linesmen do eveything they could to prevent a fight between 2 willing combatants earlier in the game, and then stand there and watch Lizotte tee off (7 or 8 punches)and not jump in? Agree with eskisfan – someone definately not doing their job…….

  33. Trapperfan says:

    I’m thinking this is Lizzote fellow is the same one that has no talent and does nothing but head hunt. What he may need is a healthy dose of Seguin or Schneeburger to show him what it’s like to be on the receiving end of some blows. Something has to be done with players like him either step up and take on the scrappers or settle down and play hockey. If they can’t do either, then perhaps they should be packing.

  34. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Congrats Peter Poulin-Roy is debut with the wolves in Barrie thursday night,home against mississauga saturday and the petes on sunday.Make sure to go support him , Good luck Peter

  35. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Welcome Back to the Nojhl Mr Jesseau ;)

  36. eski01 says:

    Jesseau back with the eskis?

  37. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Nope

  38. Minersfan says:

    Guess.

  39. fanman says:

    It’s been reported that Jesseau found the SJHL a little too physical for him and wanted out.

  40. eskisfan says:

    George reporting it can only mean hes in kl, this journeyman will make #11 look like an angel! 20 year old loaded with talent who hasnt played more than 20 games with one team in his whole career, this is 4th team this year! Kid is fun to watch tho and is like gumby! Just flies all over the ice with headdown and gets rocked but somehow just bounces back up and keeps on trucking! Could be one of the most talented players in the league!

  41. KL Flash says:

    RR: dont worry about this jackass “Bruin19″ he is an idiot from up here in Kirkland that no one can stand. All mouth and no brains!

  42. Guest says:

    Did the Lizotte fight in Abitibi happen right after Sudbury called a time out like it did in North Bay. I agree with your comment Trapperfan….this is the exact same player that has no talent. Lol!

  43. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Also Congrats to Jacob Kenney (great kid)on signing with the Eskies ,Etienne Roy got let go , probably heading to Odessee in the Nahl.

  44. bob/laf/cochrane says:

    If I may be allowed to change the subject here and for those who are not already aware of it, my and your good friend Mel Mousseau after years of being our NOHA representative has retired…. There was never any
    one more dedicated from Hearst to Iroquois Fall that I know of . Mel Took his work at Heart and it showed on the results..Mel you will be hard to replace….I hope that after a year of rest you will decide to come back as the NOHA Needs you and we need you more…

  45. stick says:

    Sorry to see Etienne go he was a great kid and gave his all in games and practices. Wish him all the best.

  46. stick says:

    On another note congrates to Peter Poulin Roy on his call up to the wolves. Eskis will have their hands full leaving on this 3 game road trip without 2 of their top players Roy and Desrosiers. Welcome Mr. Kenny.

  47. stick says:

    Mr. Lafleur you are so right about Mr. Mousseau. He was a first class NOHA rep that was very good at his job. He will be missed greatly.

  48. foober40 says:

    Really KL Flash ,

    I know Bruin19 well and have much respect for him . He may not be perfect but he does a lot more for this town than many others . If everybody gave half as much time and effort to helping out this would be an even better place than it is . To each his own opinion I guess but since I’m not sure who you are that opinion sure reduces your credibility .

  49. ABITIBIAN says:

    Thank you Mel Mousseau for your time spent with the NOHA and that is many years. Hoping Mr Belisle will be open right across the board,wishing both men the best in their futur endeavours.
    LeJib -
    I will also retreat my early comments on Sudbury…..the real Sudbury wasn`t far behind

  50. jagr_68 says:

    Thanks Mel for your dedication all these years. You are a verry verry good human being with a big heart. On to another topic, Lizotte has been a repeat offender and I think the Sudbury coach should also be held accountable for this young man’s behaviour on the ice. It’s this type of situation that gives leagues a bad name and the Sudbury org. should make sure this doesn’t happen again. Shame on the league for the way this situation has been treated. Desrosier only stepped in because the linesmen were not.

  51. eski01 says:

    It’s the society we live in now, rules and regulations are to be enforced and that’s it, the ref’s are there to apply the rules and that’s what they did. Don’t get me wrong I’m with everybody on this, it’s too bad, refferies should be able to make jugement calls as they see it sometimes as oppose to applying the rules. I’m sure the 2 refferies seen it the same way we did.

  52. BirdsFan1 says:

    Where have all the Thunderbirds Fans gone? Anyways always good to read RR’s Rambles whether here or in the Sault This Week or JuniorHockey.com or here him on the Hockey North Radio Show.
    Thunderbirds still in 1st Place with a Team that probly has more talent than last year as Cain is again working his magic as the best GM in the Nojhl. Do miss the games with the Eagles that is for sure. I have been to 1 Eagles game already this season and the North American League is good no question. Am going to go to another Eagles game or 2 this month just for something diffrent. I still say the Nojhl is as good as the Nahl.

  53. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Fanman where do you get your reports hehe

  54. Minersfan says:

    No worries McFly. Some of theses Eskies fans are like jilted lovers .

  55. Bruin19 says:

    Hi lied RR
    This will be last post.
    Thanks Foober for your comment. Means something coming from you.
    KL Flash your right. I have been a jackass which has resulted in talking instead of using my brain before i speak. Obvious my son and i have wronged you somewhere down the road. Dont let it eat you or you could make the same mistake i made.
    I am sorry I have offened some of you. Time to get grounded and take care of what is important. My children, my family, my employees and business.
    The nojhl is a great league with great people running it. Lots of fantastic hockey to which you can all talk about and RR can report.
    Go Miners Go!

  56. fanman says:

    Mcfly: I thought you were on top of things. hehe

  57. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Fanman ; I am ,that’s why i am asking you that cause that has never been said from anyone, so i am just making sure you don’t start false stories.

  58. ABITIBIAN says:

    Mcfly-

    You bid your adieu to this blog on Nov.19 . On Nov.20 you said you were writting your last post…..

    Can`t stay away from us meatheads eh………..

  59. Minersfan says:

    No worries Bruin19 you are a class act all the way. Your hard work and involvement in the community and Miners Country does not go unnoticed and is very much appreciated.

    Fanman………..that’s the best you can come up with.
    Another scorned lover ?

  60. Minersfan says:

    ABITIBIAN he can’t stay away from you meatheads but his clients can.

    Go Miners Go !

  61. Goerge Mcfly says:

    i was busy back then . dec 1 cut down. i have a bit of time for you meatheads now.

  62. eskisfan says:

    Miners fan, guess u didnt notice the best one he brought in this year is still an eskimo! Well i guess hes a wolve now and everyone in IF is hoping he can stick with the big club! Good kid and good player!
    Best of luck PPR!

  63. kong says:

    Mcfly the word on the street is they were happy when you left Kap, North Bay and Abitibi. I am sure it won’t be long before KL is on the list. Merry Xmas

  64. Goerge Mcfly says:

    hehe sure Kong. you like fanman. when it don’t go your way you start stories . what is it with you meatheads

  65. Minersfan says:

    eskisfan are you for real? How is PPR still an Eskie when he’s playing for the wolves ???? Your post makes no sense. But that’s what happens to a lover scorned. I know it’s hard to accept but hopefully you can move on.

  66. Stix601 says:

    Kong: Not word on the street – actual fact.

    Big shout out to PPR, great player with some kind of intensity! He’ll be missed!

  67. fanman says:

    Mcfly: Even with all of your issues that you’re dealing with you should be able to read some quotes from Coach Cassidy in the Estevan Mercury news on why Jesseau lasted a whole 6 games. hehe

  68. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Stix601 another one to join the meathead group and start stories , is it everyone in eskies land that start stories , i see why all the local kids signed a.p with north bay . they dont want to be in the eskies stories hehe

  69. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Coach Cassidy is a close friend of mine , we talk 4 times a day ;)

  70. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Thats why u should stick to being a fan. read the papers and go with that.Every move needs a reason.;)

  71. Goerge Mcfly says:

    did u read the one from timmins news when he left , do you think thats really the reason . they have to make everything look good.

  72. Goerge Mcfly says:

    The team also released 20-year-old centre Dustin Jesseau, who was acquired only three weeks ago from the Abitibi Eskimos of the Northern Ontario Junior Hockey League. Cassidy said he asked for a trade back to Ontario, where he felt the style of play was better suited to his skillset.

    “He certainly came out here and worked hard and I think he felt the style of play in the league didn’t fit into his best interests,” said Cassidy, adding that Jesseau will likely wind up back in the NOJHL.

  73. eskisfan says:

    Miner Fan, you obvioulsy know very little about Jr hockey, go back to watching the 87′s! PPR got “called up” like an AP, that’s how it works and i still mentioned that in my post. At the end of the day, when the team gets healthy and suspensions are served, if he wasn’t able to displace a player or forced them to make room for him. he’ll be re-assigned back to the Abitibi Eskimos, for how long, no-one knows. He’s still an Eskimos! you’re still in hockey kindergarden i see. I’ll let you know when your crow is served!

    BTW, fans here hope he does stick with thr OHL Wolves. It’s nice he’s getting a crack and we all hope he can stay in the “O” show and realize his goals! If not, the Igloo faithfull and his teamates will welcome him back with open arms and from there I’m sure George, the eskis and PPR will all continue to work hard towards his goal of playing Major Jr!

    going to be tough sledding for the Eskimos this weekend. A new acquisition will try to fill PPR role on the top line and the boys will need to tighten up on D and find a lil more offence without desrorsier for 2 games. East swing is tough and CAts and Beavers should that by dealing a good KL squad a couple of loses last week. that’s all the reminder the eskismos should need

  74. eskisfan says:

    P.S Chabot and Miron are not all the the IF kids in Kap!

  75. fanman says:

    With friends like Cassidy I can see why Mcfly is left out of the loop.

  76. David Harrison says:

    To Minersfan. Peter POoulin-Roy is still an Eski as he is up on a three game sting with the Wolves as a 2010 draft pick. He will likely return to the Eski’s after the weekend or when injured players return.

  77. eski01 says:

    Minerfan, since your for real, how does it work when a player get’s called up? Is he gone fore ever? Maybe the wolves have injuries, or maybe they have player at the world Jr camp! Players get called up and sent back all the time, If PPR is sent back where does he go? I’m sure all eskis fan hope for PPR to stick with the wolves but we all hope the see him back.

  78. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Randy you can post my last comment , Eskies need a rude awakaning. They all talk out of there ass , without facts.

  79. Hawks_96 says:

    Congrats to Peter and former Eski Jake Ryan for getting called up to the wolves on a three game road trip. I would imagine that Peter would be the one who is up longer as IF is a little closer that Stratford.

  80. ABITIBIAN says:

    Mcfly- OMG not again…. RR please do take this guy seriously when he`s asking you to post his LAST comments.

    It must be lonely up there in meatland , isn`t there where all Mcflies land.

  81. eskisfan says:

    McFly, regards to your 10:50am! i know, that you know, it was coming anyway and just a matter of time. Who’d pull the trigger first! The loooong leash that offered because of ability was being pulled in. Had it gone the other way and the leash was cut for him, it still would of looked good in the Press!

    Another clean sheet, let’s see if it stays like that this time around! Good for you, the kid and the Gminers if it does! That IS my sincere wishes!

    McFly, I respect what you’re trying to do for the kids, wish you every success. I’ve told you before, and I’m still trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but again ur throwin in junk from time to time! Remember, there are some informed ones on here who know the facts and have done LOTS of homework! Play nice!

  82. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Eskisfan what are you talking about , What was coming just a matter of time ?????

  83. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Well Eskisfan you are not inform very well, and no you havent done your homework, i say it like i see it.Open your eyes, if you want to keep your eyes closed, thats your problem,i might hurt some might make others happy ,but i dont care , i say the truth ,so when a bunch of clients on one team keep calling me to tell me this and that then it becomes a big problem, i will protect my clients and the younger generation to come along. im in this for the long run. i Have 840 Clients to protect. go to other blogs , bchl , ajhl , sjhl ,mhl,cjhl ,ojhl ,nahl , ushl , whl ,lhjmq ,ohl ,pro etc , the only one you will see me complain are 3 teams across north america , take care of the players, dont need to kiss there ass , i dont care about the on ice ,the Nojhl have great coaches to teach the kids , but off-ice,drugs booze ,party, billits,fignting , schooling , that’s my problem.

  84. sleddog says:

    Entertaining game in the Bay last night.Thought that KL would chase the Trappers out of the rink in the first period.Score not indicative of the game,KL down by a goal late in the 3rd opened up and led to two breakaways and ensuing two goals.Trappers edge in goal,not that the KL goalie wasn,t effective just that Dodds had more work.Jesseau heads and shoulders the best player on the ice.Trappers efficient defensively

  85. kong says:

    Mcfly maybe you should find a real job or something you sure sound like a bitter man. Looks like to me the Eskis are doing a lot better since they parted company with you. Nice to see PPR score his first goal as a Wolve last night.

  86. eskisfan says:

    And im not saying you do a bad job at that mcfly! if you think jr a players dont drink and party, well im not the ones with eyes closed! Drugs have no place and that will hopefully get caught in the anti doping net! I dont think any coaches condone it, yet it happens in many teams and many leagues! These kids dont have a chaperone with them 24/7! Are u sayin none of clients have that issue? Your list of worries is good, and im glad it was a long list and your not turning a blind eye a to some of the issues a new miner had here! Keep up the good work! As i said, had the trend continued, it would of only been a matter of time! This isnt about smashing kids on here but u know what im talking about!

    Congrats to PPR on his first OHL goal!

    Yes sled dog! Jesseau kid has a great tool set and is fun to watch!

  87. Goerge Mcfly says:

    Eskiefan yes , and honestly dont know what your talking about ??? can yu plz tell me what your talking about your matter of time ??

  88. Goerge Mcfly says:

    The new miner never add any problem what so ever in any other teams he went too .that’s a fact

    Every client that i find out about that do get in trouble , i either work with them to fix it and if it repeat itself then i drop them. if you have 4 kids living together and one is a bad apple , team is suppose to do something about it , not let it happen when warned about it, clients need good grades and to respect themselves and others. on and off the ice.

  89. eskisfan says:

    matter of time means if he hadn’t left, the team wasn’t going to put it with the shenanigans much longer. Dealing with the off ice antics was growing old.

    how long you had him? played in like 5 different leagues and had his rights owned by more over that time. Never played more than 25 games for any one team! face it, great tools, just missing a tool box!

  90. hockeyguy 02 says:

    sleddog, im not to sure about your suggestion that this jesseau guy was head and shoulders the best player on the ice??. ive seen alot of games in the bay this year and the trappers looked flat as a team. in my opinion, dionne was all over the puck in the trappers end all nite. just checked the 3 stars and i guess they would agree with my opinion. dodds played his usuall consistant game. k lake is definatley a much improved team from last year and played a pretty descent road game.

  91. Randy Russon says:

    latest RR blog just posted:

    NOJHL returning to Espanola?

  92. Stix601 says:

    Why some kids never get to the level they deserve can sometimes be predetermined by the company they keep. Had to go to the dictionary, but enough narcissism and whatever that other word was…………… ;-)

  93. SANCHIN says:

    To hokey guy 02 I am involved with Espanola hockey and yes we do not have midgets but supply a lot of players to area rep teams from a to aaa and they could play junior in Espanola. I think this is good for our minor hockey kids. I just hope Espanola and council will support and help out.

  94. hockeyguy 02 says:

    i hope so too SANCHIN,i was coaching there for about 20yrs. the last team was not supported by council from what i understood. and its not only council,it needs community support and thats not easy to get as we all know

  95. hockeyguy 02 says:

    hi SANCHIN. another thing is that i was coaching midget the last time there was junior hockey there and it was a very select few that could play at that level and of those few, a few of them chose to leave town for college or university. in my opinion, it would be smart to get a group and try to get some sort of fan base commited like what happened in northbay in regards to getting the ohl back there. they got a commity together and promoted the team and sold over 2,000 season tickets in a week. i understand that if this team went to espanola it would not be on that same scale but it would be a similar way to do it. good luck

  96. Peachy says:

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